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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D770351717-10=
042002>OK -=20
only one in Yorkshire. It was the Yks abbreviation which caught me ou=
t=20
when searching electronically.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D770351717-10042002>Andrew</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DTah=
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Bryant=20
[mailto:djb122@y...]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 April 2002 23:11<BR><B>To:<=
/B>=20
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians]=20
Anti-clockwise Rings<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andrew Aspland wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> </FONT><TT>Great list - some stats =
worth=20
investigating here. First none in Yorks or<BR>> Lancs, second mo=
re=20
low numbers of bells than average?, more unringable than<BR>> average?=
etc.=20
etc.</TT></DIV>
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<DIV><TT>What about Lowgate, Hull?</TT></DIV><TT></TT><TT>
<DIV><BR>> I would disagree with the tuning details - it was always=20
misleading to refer<BR>> to a peal of bells as 1-5 of an 8 since they=
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weren't, aren't, and are never<BR>> likely to be an eight.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Agreed. Why can't we use the names of th=
e musical=20
modes to describe them, and if they form no diatonic scale label them 'ou=
t of=20
tune', rather than using haphazard labels such as 'minor six', '1-5 of 8'=
,=20
etc, which in reality can mean pretty much whatever you want them to! Lab=
els=20
such as 'lydian five', 'minor six' (meaning minor and only minor, unlike =
at=20
present) are far more precise. If people don't understand the musical mod=
es=20
half a page at the front could explain them. I can really see no need to =
'dumb=20
it down' to the extent that the descriptions become meaningless.</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David</FONT></DIV>
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