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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Here are a few offerings:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cawston, Norfolk - 1 & 2 in 8 added and 6th recast =
JT=20
1925; these three hung dead. The other 5 hung for ringing: 3, S Gilpi=
n (?)=20
c1700; 4, T Mears II 1818; 5, M&S 1887; 7 J Stephens 1717; tenor =
45"=20
T Gardiner 1753. Fittings of 1818 and 1887, the latter by Day&n=
bsp;-=20
complete, but not in good order. 15th-century frame with new top sills by=20
Day. A long history of trouble with the bells here and although=
=20
there is an account of (yet another) re-opening in 1887, they have probably=
not=20
been rung since before World War I. The two trebles are War Memorial=
=20
bells, and they were installed complete with the present chiming apparatus =
for 8=20
in 1925. Visited as Diocesan Bells Adviser 19.4.75.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cattistock - The bass bell of the carillon (the tenot o=
f the=20
8) is 19-3-3 according to CD. I have other weights quoted but his is =
the=20
one I would work on.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Charlton - Yes, they were always a ring. I inspec=
ted as=20
DBA in 1983, along with NWB and found the treble in pieces, the other 4 wit=
h=20
complete and very ancient ringing fittings in a medieval frame,=20
tenor cracked and filed. CW's accounts show that ringing ceased=
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c1850. Now of course restored and rehung.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Leigh on Sea - The Paccard bells are still=20
there</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cork St Mary's - i.e. the RC Cathedral. Fred Duke=
s,=20
Campanology in Ireland pp 208-9. 8 for ringing plus a flat 2nd; tenor=
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57.1/2"; Murphy 1870 - not rung for many years and pipework now goes throug=
h the=20
frame so ringing not possible - chimed from console in the former ringing=20
room.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>NB Cork St Nicholas 8, 47" in E, are a ring - not rung =
since=20
1920's per Fred Dukes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I confirm what CJP says about Brentford and Stamford (w=
e went=20
to the latter together; no stays or sliders ever; no interest in bells=20
locally. Ringing ceiling of this funny little oblong tower plastered =
up,=20
so you have to chime them round the clock). I've done some rese=
arch=20
for him re Abberley, and am sure he won't mind me saying that the bass of t=
he=20
original 20-bell installation was 78-2-0 sent out, 76-2-14 as=20
scrapped.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dc.j.pickford@t... href=3D"mailto:c.j.pickford@t...=
">Chris=20
Pickford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 11 April 2002 10:05</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Chi=
mes -=20
New Romney</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Can help with some of this (though briefly)<BR><BR>Abb=
erley=20
Hall - have visited this year and researched extensively for<BR>planned R=
W=20
article. 15 bells sold in 1939, and now just a clock chime<BR>(Taylor 188=
4) of=20
5, largest 13-1-21 in G<BR><BR>Brentford. Pretty sure these were just mov=
ed=20
from St.George to St.Paul's in<BR>1993. An old Gillett catalogue gi=
ves=20
tenor as 7-1-8, but foundry records<BR>give the weight as 6-1-24 in A. Be=
lls=20
are 1913<BR><BR>Stamford, St.George: Still had wheels and "ringing" fitti=
ngs=20
when we visited<BR>in 1997.<BR><BR>CP<BR><BR>----- Original Message=20
-----<BR>From: "LOVE, Dickon" <DrLove@s...><BR>To:=20
<bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com><BR>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 =
9:22=20
AM<BR>Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Chimes - New Romney<BR><BR><BR>New=20
Romney, Kent (St Martin) - Stahlschmidt uses the term "ring of 5=20
bells".<BR>However, they were removed in 1549 when the church was closed,=
so=20
it is<BR>unlikely that he actually knew. Chances are they *were* a ring t=
hough=20
as<BR>most towers in Kent were at that time. The bells together weighed 4=
6 cwt=20
and<BR>valued at =A348 4s. 0d. Tradition states that they were transferre=
d to=20
St<BR>Nicholas, New Romney, although this is not the case. The bells were=
sold=20
to<BR>a Martin Partridge of Rye.<BR><BR>DrL<BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: mikechester_uk=20
[mailto:mike@m...]<BR>Sent: 10 April 2002 15:40<BR>To:=
=20
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR>Subject: [Bell Historians]=20
Chimes<BR><BR><BR>I've gone through Editions 1, 3, 6, 7, & 8 of Dove =
and=20
David Kelly's<BR>sites and also received lots of informatio from members =
of=20
this<BR>list. There are a few queries/confirmations that I hope you=
may=20
be<BR>able to help with.<BR><BR>Abberyley Hall - details of former=20
carillion<BR>Brentford, Old, Middlesex Were these bells moved, recast=20
and/or<BR>tuned? Up to 7th edition the church is listed as St Georg=
e M,=20
by 8th<BR>St Paul. In all editions the tenor is listed as 7-1-8, Nick=20
Bowden<BR>(via DLC?) says is 6-1-24<BR>Cawston, Norfolk. In 1st & 3rd=
=20
editions it is listed as a chime of 6,<BR>6-8th as 1 & 2 disused 3-6=
=20
chiming only, 9th edition as unringable -<BR>What is their=20
status?<BR>Cattistock - former carillon had 35 bells - tenor=20
weight?<BR>Charlton, Wilts In 1st edition as a ringable ring, 5 12cwt,=20
3rd<BR>edition as a chime, by 6th edition as unringable with tenor=20
and<BR>treble cracked - now a ring of 6 12-0-14 in G. Were they eve=
r=20
a<BR>chime?<BR>Leigh on Sea RC - 8 15cwt Now said to be hung for swing=20
chiming,<BR>Continental style, but "clocked" at present. To at least 3rd=
=20
edition<BR>said to be 25cwt in E, French bells - have they been recast?<B=
R>New=20
Romney, Kent - were they ever a chime, or just a sold off ring?<BR>Parrac=
ombe,=20
Devon - can the existance of this chime of 6 be<BR>confirmed? It has been=
=20
suggested that they were a ring of 3 and now<BR>only one bell=20
remains<BR>Pudleston, Herefords, can anyone confirm Mike Fradd's note tha=
t=20
they<BR>have been rehung for swing chiming? 9th ed says are an=20
unringable 4.<BR>Radnage - again confirmation that they have been hung de=
ad=20
would be<BR>appreciated<BR>Shenley Herts - weight of tenor went up in 7th=
=20
edition from 5cwt to<BR>10-0-4, have they been recast?<BR>Tyne Dock &=
Ven=20
Bede Sunderland - can any give the dates these were<BR>removed?<BR>Stamfo=
rd,=20
Lincs, St George - are these unringable or have they been<BR>hung dead as=
in=20
Mike Fradd's notes?<BR>Merthyr Cynog - have the front 3 been hung dead as=
in=20
Mike Fradd's<BR>notes?<BR>Monkton, Pembroke, or is it Pembroke, Monkton -=
in=20
the former way to<BR>at least 3rd edition, but with tenor 11cwt, from 6th=
=20
edition are in<BR>the latter way with a tenor of 10cwt - I assume that th=
ey=20
are the<BR>same place - has something been done to the bells, or have the=
y=20
just<BR>lost weight with age?!<BR>Panallt, could it be confirmed that the=
y=20
have been hung dead?<BR>Cork, St Mary Magd, what is the status of these b=
ells,=20
a chime or<BR>just unringable?<BR>London, Ontario - details of the presen=
t=20
chime, please.<BR>Singapore - were these bells actually ever rung? =
The=20
Cathedral<BR>website sort of implies that they were and were subsequently=
=20
hung<BR>dead.<BR><BR>Many thanks<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>This mess=
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