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<DIV><SPAN class=3D460141609-02072002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff si=
ze=3D2>George=20
is, of course, right to correct me. I should have stated t=
hat=20
the Wrangle frame was probably made by Howden but as there was no other iro=
n=20
founder in the vicinity Howden can be credited with the installation=20
without any reasonable doubt. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTah=
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> George Dawson=20
[mailto:George@d...]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 July 2002=20
09:12<BR><B>To:</B> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=
=20
[Bell Historians] Re: [r-c] Wrangle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John is not correct in saying is WAS mad=
e by=20
Howden, but he is the only candidate for doing so!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GAD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B>=20
<A title=3Djohn.ketteringham@n...=20
href=3D"mailto:john.ketteringham@n...">john ketteringham</A> </=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogrou=
ps.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:3=
5=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians] R=
e:=20
[r-c] Wrangle</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D350063007-02072002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000f=
f=20
size=3D2>The Wrangle bell frame was made by William Howden and Son of=20
Boston. See Lincolnshire Bells and Bell founders page=20
298.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chris Pickford=20
[mailto:c.j.pickford@t...]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 July 2002=20
08:06<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogr=
oups.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: [Bell Historians] Re: [r-c] Wrangle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is correct. The one-time existe=
nce of=20
this frame has come to light since the rediscovery of the Liverpool=20
frame. There was also a frame with some cast iron trusses at=20
Bretforton in Worcestershire, dating from 1823. We don't know all tha=
t=20
much about either of these frames, as both have now gone</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Liverpool frame may not be the e=
arliest=20
ever made, but it's quality of designstill makes it quite remarkable =
-=20
very cleverly engineered and constructed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris P</FONT></DIV>
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<B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddjb122@y... href=3D"mailto:djb122@y...">Davi=
d=20
Bryant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">Bell Historians</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 01, 2002 =
11:28=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] R=
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[r-c] Wrangle</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>john ketteringham wrote:<BR>> Jonathan (and=20
others) might like to know that the earliest known iron<BR>>=20
bellframe was installed at Wrangle in 1820. Unfortunate=
ly=20
it<BR>> disappeared when Taylors recast the treble and second an=
d=20
installed a<BR>> new frame in 1952.<BR><BR>Transferred from the=
=20
chatlist! Is this correct? I thought the earliest cast<BR>iron fram=
e was=20
the one in the bombed St Luke's, Liverpool, dating=20
from<BR>1830-ish.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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