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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We do have plans and some - rather tantali=
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details for the frames at Wrangle (as George says) and Bretforton, but what=
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don't know is the exact design and shape of the cast iron sections. =20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>For the Liverpool frame, the best so=
urce is=20
Bryan McCahey's excellent little book "Peace and Good Neighbourhood" - prob=
ably=20
the best account ever of the bells of one tower, in this case St.Luke's=20
Liverpool. I understand that copies are still available for =A314 fro=
m <SPAN=20
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family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: =
EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Merseyside=20
Bell Restoration Group, c/o G.K. Austin, Cyprus Cottage, 32 Roby Road, Huyt=
on,=20
Liverpool, L36 4HF</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro=
m:</B>=20
<A title=3DGeorge@d...=20
href=3D"mailto:George@d...">George Dawson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups=
.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:06=
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Re:=
[r-c]=20
Wrangle</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>It is correct. The frame seems to have been mixed, ie =
bells=20
1,2,5 & 6 were<BR>in cast iron side frames on a wooden grillage &=
3=20
& 4 in all wood (see<BR>Lincolnshire Bells & Bellfounders p253/4 =
&=20
298). Liverpool is dated 1828<BR>(see Pickfords Bellframe, a practical=20
guide....p6).<BR>The six bell frame at Wainfleet S Mary at 1844 seems to =
be a=20
candidate for<BR>the earlist WORKING frame.<BR>George Dawson<BR>----- Ori=
ginal=20
Message -----<BR>From: "David Bryant" <djb122@y...><BR>To: "B=
ell=20
Historians" <bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com><BR>Sent: Monday, July =
01,=20
2002 11:28 PM<BR>Subject: [Bell Historians] Re: [r-c] Wrangle<BR><BR><BR>=
>=20
john ketteringham wrote:<BR>> > Jonathan (and others) might like to=
know=20
that the earliest known iron<BR>> > bellframe was installed at Wran=
gle=20
in 1820. Unfortunately it<BR>> > disappeared when Taylo=
rs=20
recast the treble and second and installed a<BR>> > new frame in=20
1952.<BR>><BR>> Transferred from the chatlist! Is this correct? I=20
thought the earliest<BR>cast<BR>> iron frame was the one in the bombed=
St=20
Luke's, Liverpool, dating from<BR>> 1830-ish.<BR>><BR>>=20
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