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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John is not correct in saying is WAS made =
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Howden, but he is the only candidate for doing so!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GAD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:35=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians] Re:=
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Wrangle</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D350063007-02072002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Wrangle bell frame was made by William Howden and Son of Boston. &nb=
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See Lincolnshire Bells and Bell founders page 298.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chris Pickford=20
[mailto:c.j.pickford@t...]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 July 2002=20
08:06<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
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Re: [Bell Historians] Re: [r-c] Wrangle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is correct. The one-time existenc=
e of this=20
frame has come to light since the rediscovery of the Liverpool frame.&n=
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There was also a frame with some cast iron trusses at Bretforton in=20
Worcestershire, dating from 1823. We don't know all that much about eit=
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of these frames, as both have now gone</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Liverpool frame may not be the ear=
liest=20
ever made, but it's quality of designstill makes it quite remarkable - =
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cleverly engineered and constructed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris P</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddjb122@y... href=3D"mailto:djb122@y...">David=
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Bryant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">Bell Historians</A> </=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 01, 2002 11=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Re:=
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Wrangle</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>john ketteringham wrote:<BR>> Jonathan (and oth=
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might like to know that the earliest known iron<BR>> bellframe was=
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installed at Wrangle in 1820. Unfortunately it<BR>>=20
disappeared when Taylors recast the treble and second and installed=20
a<BR>> new frame in 1952.<BR><BR>Transferred from the chatlist! Is=
this=20
correct? I thought the earliest cast<BR>iron frame was the one in the=
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bombed St Luke's, Liverpool, dating=20
from<BR>1830-ish.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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