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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for this, can't think why I just don't remember =
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articlem, which I shall at once rectify. Anyway, it explains why JPF=
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refers to everything being much the same as in his previous visit, also Dov=
e's=20
accurate weight. JPF noted that Nicholl's supplied a new set of ropes=
in=20
1921 - "very dirty and hardly ever used" ! &nb=
sp;=20
DC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 29 August 2002 12:08</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians]=20
Grassendale</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There was a good account of Grassendale =
bells by=20
Peter Furniss (who lives nearby and maintains occasional contact with the=
=20
church) in RW 9 Dec.1988 p.1157. The bells were retuned by G&J in 193=
8,=20
but rehung dead - in the old fittings - as a chime. 17 peals were rung th=
ere=20
between 1909 and 1927.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the sound of it, the status - chime o=
r "lost=20
ring" - does stretch definitions a bit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter told me - when I was in Liverpool =
earlier=20
this year - that the church had no interest in having the bells restored =
for=20
ringing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CP</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddave@d...=20
href=3D"mailto:dave@d...">D Cawley</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 29, 2002 =
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians]=20
Grassendale</DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> GRASSENDALE (St Mary) Liverpool</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>This is currently listed as a 'lost' tower, and hav=
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read John Fidler's inspection notes of 1956, I wonder if it still is,=20
despite Dove saying in 1962 (Foreign Bells), that the bells were=20
"rehung dead about thirty years ago". In 1956, JPF said that "The gener=
al=20
condition of the bells and framework is the same as when I last visited=
this=20
place...since my visit an electric driven chime barrel has been fixed b=
y=20
G&J, the old clappers have been replaced by newer ones" and goes on=
to=20
describe the way the barrel works.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>He "last visited" in 1933 when he found the ri=
ng of=20
six bells by Hodges of Dublin, 1853, tenor 37.5/8" diam with "dirty, cl=
umsy"=20
fittings,"no doubt still serviceable if the frame were good". It =
is=20
not good. Front four above fifth & tenor, rather a =
poor=20
design and not in a good state.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>This implies that in 1956 they would better have be=
en=20
described as Unringable., and might still be so described=20
to-day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone been up to possibly the only surviving=20
Irish <STRONG>ring</STRONG> in the UK outside Ireland=20
?</FONT></DIV>
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