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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On re-reading my notes I see I forgot to n=
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the 4th is 5.2.10 !!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GAD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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m:</B>=20
<A title=3Dc.j.pickford@t... href=3D"mailto:c.j.pickford@t...=
">Chris=20
Pickford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, 2002=
11:40=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Ten=
or=20
Weights</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael Lee’s book on Peterborough gives as t=
he notice and=20
the archive, except 4 as 5-2-10 and tenor as 21-0-0. As this was probably=
=20
taken from the same notice, I can only assume student (proper spelling th=
is=20
time!) error in having noted it as 21-2-0, but it does show the treble we=
ights=20
were "given out" as 4-2-27 and 5-0-17.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>But can GAD shed light on what's right for the 4th?=
5-2-10=20
or 5-2-20?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>I see RW 3976 gives the weights of 3 and 4 at Peter=
borough=20
as 4-0-17 and 4-2-18. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>The articles in RW 3938 and 3976 (17 Oct.1986 p.913=
and 10=20
July 1987 p.617 for those who prefer full references) are both in the "Fo=
undry=20
Focus" series. The first only gives the tenor weight - as 21-2-20 i=
n E=20
flat. The latter gives all the weights, the twelve as 4-1-1, 4-0-17, 4-0-=
17,=20
4-2-18, 5-1-12, 5-2-12, 6-3-8, 7-3-10, 9-1-18, 10-2-6, 14-1-12 and 21-1-2=
0 in=20
E flat. Sharp second 4-0-11, and old tenor 27-0-9 in C (was 29-3-9 before=
=20
tuning)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Comparison seems to indicate that the bells were we=
ighed -=20
but not retuned - in 1986. Hence minor variations - though minor is debat=
able=20
for 1-2/10!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
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face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bid=
i-language: AR-SA"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>CP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B>=20
<A title=3DGeorge@d...=20
href=3D"mailto:George@d...">George Dawson</A> </DI=
V>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogrou=
ps.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, 20=
02=20
11:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] T=
enor=20
Weights</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></F=
ONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT f=
ace=3DArial=20
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size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My notes (from an Archive) give all th=
e weights=20
as below EXCEPT:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Treble 4.0.27</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2nd 4.2.17</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tenor 21.0.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GAD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B=
>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddjb122@y... href=3D"mailto:djb122@y...">DJ Bry=
ant</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
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oups.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, =
2002=20
10:26 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians]=
Tenor=20
Weights</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><=
/FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Chris Pickford=20
[mailto:c.j.pickford@t...] <BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><=
SPAN=20
class=3D600272509-12092002><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D600272509-12092002> </SPAN>I used to ring regularly at S=
t.John=20
the Divine when I was a studen, and the weights displayed in the towe=
r=20
were 4-2-27, 5-0-17, 5-1-12, 5-2-20, 6-3-11, 7-3-8, 9-1-23, 10-2-16,=
=20
14-1-21 and 21-2-0 (not 21-0-0 - interestingly). I always assumed it =
was=20
an exact weight, since the pucker weights were given for all the=20
others. The weights had been shown on a framed notice for quite=
a=20
long time, so there was no secrecy here.<SPAN=20
class=3D600272509-12092002><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D600272509-12092002></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D600272509-120920=
02><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>Didn't Taylor's have a policy of only releasing the w=
eight=20
of the tenor of complete rings until the=20
1960s/70s?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D600272509-120920=
02><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D600272509-120920=
02><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>David</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>=
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