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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Firstly, I am grateful to those who looked=
up this=20
peal and let me have the details (despite my incorrect subject=20
line!!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is apparently not clear from the RW if =
this peal=20
was credited to any association. The reason for it not being credited=
to=20
the KCACR was that Albert Relfe had fallen out with the Association and the=
=20
Lamberhurst band resigned from the KCACR with effect from 31st December=20
1933. The root of the trouble seems to have been the recognition of t=
he=20
record peal of 26 spliced surprise minor rung on 15th May 1930 (KCACR Peal =
No=20
3567) and a peal of Alliance and Little Minor rung on 26th November 19=
32=20
(KCACR Peal No 3939). Both were printed in the Kent Reports but the=20
compositions were omitted initially and printed in later reports. The=20
composition for Peal No 3567 was printed in 1933 Report and Peal No 3939 in=
the=20
1934 Report.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is some contemporary correspondence =
from=20
Albert Relfe to Fred Mitchell, the General Secretary, in the KCACR archives=
, but=20
unfortunately the other side of the correspondence is not there, so it is=20
difficult to understand the whole story.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It may be that some of the methods rung we=
re not=20
officially recognised by the CC Methods Committee, although if not, why wer=
e the=20
peals recognised at all? In a letter dated 18th March 1933 Albert Rel=
fe=20
writes "I am sending figures of peals asked for. I am also enclosing =
the=20
two methods, Hever and Kilndown Alliance as they are not in the new Minor=20
book. They were sent to the Ringing World but have not been=20
published. I am surprised that no one has doubted the truth of the pe=
al,=20
as six of the 720s were rung contrary to the rules given by the Methods=20
Committee in the new book." These methods were in Peal No=20
3939.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a letter dated 23rd June 1933, he write=
s, "The=20
1933 Report to hand. I see you have at last published the figures of =
the=20
26 surprise methods peal, but you have not, as promised on your card of 14/=
3/33=20
(probably the correspondence the previous letter was replying to) put the=20
figures of the Alliance and Little peal in. This peal not only includ=
es 13=20
methods which have not been rung in a peal before, two of them are methods =
which=20
the Methods Committee of the CC omitted from the collection, but were rung =
to=20
compositions hitherto believed to be impossible. In your Report you s=
ay=20
"Three additional first performances have been added to the list." Tw=
o of=20
them, rung entirely by non-resident and unattached members have the fi=
gures=20
published, but those rung by a band of Sunday service ringers are not. =
;=20
Does that give resident members encouragement to progress?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clearly the issue was far more than the re=
cognition=20
of the methods and composition, although the root of it was the pushing of=
=20
accepted boundaries. Albert and his band of Sunday service ringers fe=
lt=20
that the Association discriminated against them personally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In his second letter Albert referred to an=
=20
editorial in "today's Ringing World" on the subject of composition. I=
f=20
someone could kindly look this up, it might throw a bit more light on to th=
e=20
matter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>KCACR General Committee minutes and Tonbri=
dge=20
District minutes of the time fail to mention anything about the=20
dispute.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hazel Basford<BR>Kent County Association o=
f Change=20
Ringers<BR>Hon. Librarian<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:hazel@b...">hazel@b...</A><BR>KCACR website<BR=
><A=20
href=3D"http://oubwor|d.compuserve.com/homepages/fwcml/homepage.htm">http:/=
/ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fwcml/homepage.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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m:</B>=20
<A title=3DWillbutler@a...=20
href=3D"mailto:Willbutler@a...">Willbutler@a...</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 02, 2003 6=
:12=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians]=20
Lamberhurst Peal 1936</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial s=
ize=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">The Ringing World for October 12, 1934 contains this=
peal=20
on page 645, thus:<BR>
<P align=3Dcenter>LAMBERHURST, KENT<BR><I>On Saturday, October 6, 1934, i=
n Two=20
Hours and Fifty-One Minutes,<BR></I>AT THE CHURCH OF ST. MARY,<BR><B>A PE=
AL=20
OFSPLICED MORLAND ALLIANCE AND BASTOW LITTLE<BR>COURT, 5040=20
CHANGES;<BR>*</B>BASIL SANDS .... =20
.... .... Treble ALBERT RELFE =20
.... .... .... 4<BR>WALTER=20
MARSHALL ... ... =20
...2 JAMES WAGHORN, JUN, =
....=20
.... 5<BR>ANDREW MARSHALL ... ... =20
...3 JAMES BASSETT ... =20
... ... Tenor<BR>Composed by A. G.=20
DRIVER Conducted by A. RELFE<BR>
<P align=3Dleft>* First peal. Rung in honour of the wedding o=
f Mr J.=20
C. Morland, of Court Lodge, and Miss G. L. Bastow, of Kensington. Also to=
=20
celebrate the completion of 25 years' service ringing together at the chu=
rch=20
by the ringers of 2, 3 and 4. First time the above methods have been rung=
to a=20
peal.<BR><BR>As may be seen, no association is mentioned. Miss Bastow's f=
irst=20
initial may have been a C: unfortunately my copy of the Ringing World has=
an=20
ink blob at that point!<BR><BR>William Butler<BR>Thatcham,=20
Berks<BR>willbutler@a...</P>
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