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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The term JT use is "vine-leaf border" or "=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:dalton.family@v..." title=3Ddalton.family@virgin.=
net>Susan=20
Dalton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Tay=
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borders</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Looks like Taylors' vine to me.<BR><BR>Not sure what a=
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the recent correspondence about the (in my view,<BR>pernicious) practice =
about=20
making heavy rings lighter has to do with bell<BR>history! But my pennywo=
rth=20
would be to ask what people think of the<BR>scrapping of the 19 cwt 17th=
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century ring of 5 (apart from the 18th century<BR>tenor which was kept as=
a=20
clock bell) and the substitution of a 4 cwt ring<BR>of 6 in a large and=20
handsome 15th century Wiltshire tower of my<BR>acquaintance.<BR><BR>When =
my=20
brain is working better in the morning I will concoct a reply to<BR>someo=
f the=20
recent references to Llewellins and James (Broughton Gifford,<BR>East Ard=
sley=20
et al). What I can say without reference to my notes is that<BR>the forme=
r 7th=20
at Glastonbury St John was cast by the same unknown founder<BR>as Yeovilt=
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tenor, a bell at Cherington in Glos, and the back 3 at Lamphey<BR>in=20
Pembrokeshire. It was the lighter and earlier Llewellin bell that was<BR>=
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for Peter Llewellin at Whitechapel.<BR><BR>Christopher=20
Dalton<BR><BR>----------<BR>>From: "David Bryant"=20
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<bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com><BR>>Subject: [Bell Historians]=
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Taylor borders<BR>>Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2003, 4:12 pm<BR>><BR><BR>>=
; My=20
botanical knowlege is severely limted, so can someone tell me what the<BR=
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border in the attached photo is? I've got another one to identify too,=20
when<BR>> I can find the photo.<BR>><BR>>=20
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