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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have seen somewhere, & cannot find t=
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reference, that recent research has shown that Johanna Hille & Joh=
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Sturdy are NOT the same person. A will has been found. Perhaps John Eisel c=
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comment?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GAD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=3Ddave@d...=20
href=3D"mailto:dave@d...">David Cawley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10=
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PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians]=20
Castlethorpe</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Quote from George Elphick's Sussex Bells=
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Belfries pp 43-5:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'Johanna Hille, Richard's (d 1440) wife,=
was a=20
most remarkable woman. She not only became a bellfounder and carrie=
d on=20
her husband's business, but again occupied the position during her second=
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widowhood, as well as being mother-in-law to another founder. Two d=
eeds=20
are preserved at Faversham Church, Kent, which mention her as Johanna Hil=
le of=20
London, widow in 1441 when she made them five new bells; and as Johanna S=
turdy=20
of London, widow in 1459, when she supplied them with a new tenor weighin=
g=20
35-cwt. The fact that we have two widows bearing the same Christian=
name=20
eighteen years apart, and two groups of bells bearing the same lozenge,=20
indicative of womanhood, gives strong evidence for assigning these bells =
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the same person.... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'She used her husband's (i.e. Richard Hi=
lle's)=20
cross, letter moulds and her own lozenge, which, by its varying grounds, =
was=20
cast in wax. (He gives seven remaining bells from her first=20
widowhood). Assuming that her bells bear the same relationship in b=
ells=20
per year as her late husband's, she probably married John Sturdy about=20
1443.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'Johanna Sturdy (as she now was) must ha=
ve been=20
very active during her second widowhood, for, if we accept the date of 14=
58=20
for her husband's (John Sturdy's) death, it only leaves her a few years t=
o=20
cast her second group of 14 bells that have been traced. We know th=
at=20
she must have been dead by 1465, for her son-in-law, Henry Jordan (also a=
=20
bellfounder) makes mention of her in his will of 1468 as being buried wit=
h her=20
first husband. Her bells are exacctly the same as John Sturdy's wit=
h the=20
addition of her lozenge'.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can read 19th-century accounts by Ty=
ssen and=20
Stahlschmidt in CB Sussex, Surrey Bells & London Bellfounders and CB=
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Kent. Whatever they say, you can be pretty certain that George Elph=
ick's=20
summary is accurate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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