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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Possibly worth saying that=
the best=20
published short account of Warner's foundry in my view is in George Elphick=
's=20
"Sussex Bells and Belfries"; though no doubt Dorset III will eclipse it=20
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>There are a large number o=
f papers on=20
and from John Warner & Sons in the Ranald Clouston archive, presum=
ably=20
now in the Pitt-Rivers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>There is no substitute for=
consulting=20
the Warner catalogues - CJP drew our attention some while ago to the "New=20
Century" one of c1900, which I believe goes far beyond their bell work; and=
dare=20
I bring back our old friends by saying that there was a similar production =
of=20
about the same period dealing with far more than bells by our old friends,=
=20
Llewellins & James.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro=
m:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:c.j.pickford@t..." title=3Dc.j.pickford@t...=
m>Chris=20
Pickford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:5=
9=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Bel=
ls of=20
Ivinghoe, Bucks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are no actual records from Warners=
foundry,=20
where bellfounding was really little more than a sideline of a much large=
r=20
brassfounding and metalworking business. They cast something like 6=
000=20
to 7000 bells between 1850 and 1920. The best published accounts of the f=
irm=20
are in Elphick's Sussex, and in Bill Butler's book on Handbells</FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as Ivinghoe is concerned, I very =
much=20
doubt if the old bells were "recycled". In those days old bells were more=
or=20
less invariably recast, and finding new homes for sound old bells was=20
extremely uncommon (though there are some instances)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CP</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:joanna.wheatland@v..."=20
title=3Djoanna.wheatland@v...>Joanna Wheatland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</=
A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4=
:37=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Bells=
of=20
Ivinghoe, Bucks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m new to the list=
, and wonder=20
if there’s anyone out there who can help me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></F=
ONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m a ringer at <SP=
AN=20
class=3DSpellE>Chippenham</SPAN>, Wilts, and am also interested in loca=
l=20
history.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On a history list of whic=
h I am=20
a member there was a bell enquiry which I’m passing on to=20
you:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Corrall asks: “Does=
any one know=20
anything of the history of John Warner bell=20
foundry?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The bells of <SPAN=20
class=3DSpellE>Ivinghoe</SPAN>, St Mary the Virgin, Bucks were cast the=
re in=20
1875.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m told that the o=
riginal 5=20
bells were augmented to 6, and that some of the bells were ‘recyc=
led and=20
sent off to other churches’.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Corrall wants to know if =
she=20
could find records about her church’s bells and where they were s=
ent. Do=20
records of John Warner’s foundry still exist?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></=
FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Many thanks in advance fo=
r any=20
information.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Joanna=20
Wheatland<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><BR><BR><TT>This message wa=
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