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<LI><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">My experience is tha=
t ringers do care about bells.</FONT></SPAN></LI>
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<LI><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Many ringers too hav=
e an interest in ringing history of which bell archaeology is a part. Perha=
ps you're confusing archaeology and history?</FONT></SPAN></LI>
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<LI><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">By alienating and di=
smissing the views of ringers, who you think don't know or care, you're not=
helping this cause. In fact it’s playing into the hands of conservat=
ionists and bureaucracy.</FONT></SPAN></LI>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Mark</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message=
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<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From: David Bryant [=
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03 11:44</FONT></SPAN>
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<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Subject: Re: [Bell H=
istorians] Yesterday's CCC conference</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> One thing that t=
his shows is that a National Bell Register is </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> desperately nee=
ded, and ways of organising (& funding) this need to be </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> explored. The C=
CCBR have made it clear they don't want to be involved </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> in it, it needs=
</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">some</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> group to own it=
, hopefully the CCC will look into possibilities.</FONT></SPAN>
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Doesn't this highligh=
t one glaring problem with bell history? Namely that, unlike clocks, monume=
ntal brasses, or other church fitments, there is no formal society dedicate=
d to their study. In many ways this isn't a problem, but if we were a forma=
l society rather than a loosely organised group of individuals sharing a co=
mmon interest then perhaps we would have more clout when it came to decidin=
g conservation policies. As a bell historian with a degree in archaeology, =
I obviously think conservation is a good idea, but within sensible limits. =
If it means that a ring of bells will end up in an unringaable state, or ba=
dly out of tune, then, in my view, the conservationist lobby has failed.</F=
ONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I know we've discusse=
d the matter before, but what do people feel about forming a society of bel=
l historians. I'm probably in as good a position as anyone to start the gro=
undwork, for example by contacting other societies such as the AHS and seek=
ing their experiences as regards forming and maintaining a society. I think=
the study of bells has suffered from the fact that, unlike clocks and monu=
ments, it has a body attached to it (ringers) who by and large don't care a=
bout bells. Yes, I know that most bell historians are ringers, but they are=
a minority in the exercise. In the view of probably the majority of ringer=
s, if the bell goes round and it goes bong then that's fine!</FONT></SPAN><=
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">What do people think?=
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<P><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">David</FONT></SPAN>
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