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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David makes the point well,and with the li=
ghter=20
bells of a chime, it is vital also that they are not too heavy. For a good=
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comparison of two excellent sets of bells look at Dickon's London pages and=
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compare the diatonic 12 in C at All Hallows with the twelve at=20
Bow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Reverting to shapes, if you compare the li=
ght Mears=20
& Stainbank chime of sixteen at Lee (see Dickon's Kent pages) with the =
light=20
bells in the All Hallows Taylor chime, you will observe a marked prof=
ile=20
difference.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Coventry is an example of a "long" G&J=
tenor=20
(once part of a chime but intended to be quite suitable as a ringing bell) =
- and=20
what a sound !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the end, I suppose it comes down to, "Y=
ou pays=20
your money and you takes your choice".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:david@b..."=20
title=3Ddavid@b...>David Bryant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 04, 2003 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] bel=
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shapes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>> Could someone please explain to me why bells hung=
for=20
ringing and<BR>> chiming bells having the same/nearly the same note, c=
an be=20
so<BR>> dramatically different in shape? I have in mind Liverpool=20
Cathedral's<BR>> tenor at St. Helens Carillon bass bell. I assume that=
it=20
may have<BR>> something to do with the dynamics in making a ringing be=
ll=20
easier to<BR>> handle and clapper correctly.<BR><BR>Surely the case yo=
u=20
quote is because the bells are by different founders,<BR>rather than beca=
use=20
one is a ringing and one is a chiming bell. Obviously,<BR>the front end o=
f a=20
ring is heavier than that of a chime to make the trebles<BR>powerful enou=
gh,=20
but I hadn't noticed any difference in profile in the<BR>majoroty of case=
s.=20
However, I believe Gilletts sometimes cast the tenor of a<BR>chime rather=
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long-waisted. Don't know why. The tenor at St Wilfrid's in<BR>York, forme=
rly=20
the tenor of a chime, is one of these and it causes problems<BR>with the=
=20
timing of this bell (i.e. it's very slow) in relation to=20
the<BR>others.<BR><BR>Taylor's, at least (not sure about WBF and G&J)=
have=20
sometimes cast trebles<BR>of higher number rings longer in the waist,=20
presumably to add weight.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>This=20
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