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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry about the treble error - yes of cour=
se it was=20
WBF sixteen years after the five went back (JT) as a chime. However, JT &am=
p; Co=20
did quote for a treble in 1964, which is I suppose where I made the=20
mistake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Very good news about this church, let's ho=
pe the=20
chime will one day ring again as originally intended.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The same sort of thing happened about that=
time to=20
West Mersea, not recorded in the losses in Dove 8.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro=
m:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:david@s..."=20
title=3Ddavid@s...>David Sloman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 02, 2004 9:0=
6=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Gre=
at=20
Clacton</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The old five bells were unringable at th=
e turn of=20
the 20th Century, Alfred Bowell reported that the third and tenor bells=20
cracked in 1930. The bells were rehung for chiming in 1958 by Taylors and=
the=20
two cracked bells recast. Whitechapel added a new treble in 1974 but by 1=
986=20
the church was in poor condition and was closed. By 1993 the tower roof l=
eaked=20
and the tower was home for a hundred pigeons.The whole installation has n=
ow=20
been overhaulled and the pigeons excluded and all is in good order and th=
ere=20
has been talk of hanging them for ringing again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DS</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>F=
rom:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:dcawley@w..."=20
title=3Ddcawley@w...>David Cawley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</=
A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:alan@chant=
ler.net"=20
title=3Dalan@c...>alan@c...</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:marjax @ btinternet.com" title=3D"marjax @ btinternet.co=
m">marjax=20
@ btinternet.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 01, 2004=
10:06=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] G=
reat=20
Clacton</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GREAT CLACTON BELLS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chime of five is as follows:</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Treble: John Taylor & Co., Loughbo=
rough,=20
1964</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2nd: Thomas Gardiner, Sudbury,=20
1721</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3rd: Thomas Gardiner 1721</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4th: John Taylor & Co., 1958</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5th: Miles Graye III, Colchester,=20
1649</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tenor: John Taylor & Co., 1958&nbs=
p; =20
8-cwt 2-qr 24-lb in G#</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The previous 4th & tenor were by T=
homas=20
Gardiner and Miles Graye respectively.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chiming cords should be attached a=
t their=20
top ends to trigger action clappers - i.e. to the lever eye adjacent to=
the=20
clapper hinge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The chiming cords should be attached a=
t their=20
bottom end to a chiming manual supplied in 1958; the manual should have=
=20
individual pawl and ratchet adjustment facilities to daw the cords=
into=20
adjustment. The cords themselves should have rubber handgrips.</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John Taylor & Co visited in 1957 a=
nd found=20
the then ring of bells hanging in a derelict condition. Two (the presen=
t 4th=20
& tenor) were cracked. They advised recasting these and tuning the=
=20
remainder; the canons to be retained on the surviving 17th & 18th=20
century bells.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They then quoted for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A. Rehanging in a new frame, for full-=
circle=20
ringing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>B. Rehanging in the old frame, for=20
swing-chiming </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>C. Rehanging the three sound bells onl=
y in a=20
new frame with a foundation for six, for full-circle ringing</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D. Rehanging on steel joists, for=
=20
stationary chiming only.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the end they went for the last sche=
me, i.e.=20
the old frame was removed, the two cracked bells recast, new stationary=
=20
chiming fittings provided and new steelwork on which to hang the bells=
=20
stationary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The treble was added six years=20
later.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In view of the long period which has e=
lapsed=20
during which they have been silent, it would be advisable for the paris=
h to=20
seek the advice of the Diocesan Adviser, David Sloman: he will be able =
to=20
suggest any remedial action if it is necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good news about Great Clacton church, =
in fact=20
just right for the New Year !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B=
>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:aidan@h..." title=3Daidan@h...>Ai=
dan C A=20
Hopkins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:change-ringers@b..."=20
title=3Dchange-ringers@b...>change-ringers@b...=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ringing-chat@b..."=20
title=3Dringing-chat@b...>ringing-chat@b...</A>=
; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 01, 20=
04 6:03=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Gre=
at=20
Clacton</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>On 30 Dec 2003 at 0:50, Alan Chantler wrote:<BR>&g=
t;=20
This has arrived in my personal Inbox. I have already responded.<BR>&=
gt;=20
Anyone else who wishes should respond to Jack off list.<BR>> <BR>&=
gt;=20
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Jack Arr <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:marjax@b...">marjax@b...</A>><B=
R>>=20
To: <A href=3D"mailto:alan@c...">alan@c...</A> <BR>&g=
t;=20
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:25 PM [badly formatted header]<BR>&=
gt;=20
Subject: bell ringing<BR>> <BR>> I have just come across your w=
eb=20
site while looking for information on<BR>> bell ringing and I wond=
ered=20
if you could possibly help me with a query<BR>> I have regarding t=
he=20
bells we ring. <BR>> <BR>> Our church ( St. John the Baptist, P=
arish=20
Church of Great Clacton)<BR>> dates back to the 11th century. =
; We=20
have just completed a restoration<BR>> project after being closed =
for=20
16 years so we are now opened again for<BR>> regular worship.<BR>&=
gt;=20
<BR>> We have six bells in the tower which have also been repaired=
=20
and<BR>> restored but the unusual thing is - the ropes are=20
attached to the<BR>> clappers. <BR>> <BR>> The actual =
bells=20
are -<BR>> <BR>> 1) A relatively new casting,possib=
ly=20
some time in the 1960s.<BR>> <BR>> 2, 3 & 4) Ca=
st in=20
1721 by Thomas Gardner of Sudbury. Their<BR>> diameter=
s are=20
26", 30", <BR>> and 32" and weigh 41/2 cwt, 51/2 cwt and 6cwt=20
respectively.<BR>> <BR>> 5 and 6)Cast in 1649 by Miles Gray of=
=20
Colchester. Their diameters are<BR>> 34" and 36" and weigh a=
pprox=20
7 1/2 cwt and 8 1/2 cwt respectively<BR>> <BR>> They do make a=
=20
lovely sound and they can be managed by one person but<BR>> would =
be=20
pleased to know if you have come across this type of ringing<BR>>=
=20
before. <BR>> <BR>> We would love to know more about=20
it.<BR><BR><BR>I presume from the description that the "repaired and=
=20
restored" bells <BR>are hung for "clocking", and that somebody - prob=
ably=20
Alan - has <BR>warned them of the risk of cracking. No doubt the=20
"repairing and <BR>restoring" was an amateur job (in terms of bell wo=
rk=20
knowledge). <BR><BR>Unless of course the terminology is wrong, and it=
is=20
really an <BR>Ellacombe chime's hammers that the ropes are attached=20
to!<BR><BR>What I find surprising is that the original email implies =
that=20
the <BR>bells have been sitting there - perhaps since the 1960s or lo=
nger=20
- <BR>and yet they are not listed in Dove, and the tower is not affil=
iated=20
<BR>to the Essex Association.<BR><BR>I was rather hoping that somebod=
y=20
would make an on-list comment about <BR>them, and this very unusual=20
combination of circumstances. <BR><BR>I am copying this to r-c in cas=
e=20
anybody only on that list has any <BR>knowledge, AND to Bell Historia=
ns in=20
view of the ages of the old <BR>ones. It would be very interesting to=
hear=20
them, particularly the old <BR>ones.<BR><BR>I am convinced that someb=
ody=20
somewhere on these lists must have more <BR>knowledge of the local=20
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