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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The point I was making and reiterate is th=
at Sir=20
Giles Scott was a friend of A A Hughes and there is no record of him tellin=
g AAH=20
to 'mind his own business'. Indeed, the idea of the concrete radial frame w=
as=20
AAH's and all Whitechapel's publicity at the time extols this novel concept=
ion.=20
Had the two men been free to develop the consequences of the installation,=
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things might have worked out differently. It might still be done to-day, th=
ough=20
I can't imagine that it would go to the extent of removing the immense conc=
rete=20
roof from the tower.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Someone told me privately that my=20
previous posting was a bit hard on Dean Dwelly, and perhaps it was. Th=
e=20
bells were of course cast in 1938-39 (Great George in 1940), but the effect=
s=20
of WWII on the Cathedral project were enormous. Scott's design for the=
west=20
end was abandoned along with a number of other things, and it is =
a=20
matter of thankfulness that the substructure of the bell frame and the=
=20
shell of the tower had been completed in time to receive the bells=20
(themselves made possible by the accumulation of interest on the Bartl=
ett=20
Bequest of 1912).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two other things on Liverpool. First, =
; the=20
older, pre WWII Cathedral handbooks state that 'a bell of the peal has been=
cast=20
and hung in a temporary position'. This bell is not a part of the Bartlett =
ring,=20
but where was it, any details, and does it still exist ?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Second, is anyone aware of a really good w=
rite-up=20
on the pro-Cathedral of St Peter, Church Street, Liverpool (demolished=
1924=20
or 5), whose bells are now at St Helen's Parish Church ? Perhaps this=
is=20
not really list material but I can be contacted on </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dave@d..."><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dave@d...</FONT></A></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro=
m:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:dickon.love@a..."=20
title=3Ddickon.love@a...>Dickon Love</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"=20
title=3Dbellhistorians@yahoogroups.com>bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:5=
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Liv=
erpool=20
Cathedral Bells</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>DLC:<BR>> Before you run off castigating Sir Giles=
=20
Gilbert Scott, the truly <BR>great architect of Liverpool Cathedral, you=
=20
should remember that he <BR>was a personal friend of A A Hughes. Both wer=
e men=20
of integrity and <BR>humility. Both, and also Paul Taylor, the founder of=
=20
'Great George', <BR>warned the Cathedral authorities of the consequ=
ences=20
which would <BR>attend the placing of such enormousd quantities of bell m=
etal=20
within <BR>such vast spaces surrounded by so much concrete and with so li=
ttle=20
<BR>enclosure for the ringers.<BR><BR>Surely the problem is not the amoun=
t of=20
metal. Even a small ring of <BR>bells would be inaudible and lost in that=
=20
cavern of a tower. The <BR>suggestion to have housed the bells in an inte=
rnal=20
structure sounds <BR>quite a sensible one to me. I understand that a rece=
nt=20
analysis of <BR>the problem has been commissioned and undertaken although=
I=20
don't <BR>know what the recommendations were.<BR><BR>DrL<BR><BR></TT><BR>=
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