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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It may be getting away from Sanctus and An=
gelus to=20
'local uses' but JRK's account of the ringing at Lincoln reminds me very mu=
ch of=20
the chiming at Westminster Abbey when the 'old eight' were there (tog=
ether=20
with the 3-cwt 'Saints' bell, which still is, high behind the south=20
louvres):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7.45-8.00 weekdays: Saints Bell</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7.45-8.00 Sundays and at any time whe=
n=20
there was a Celebration at the High Altar or in the St Edward's Shrine=
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Chapel: 5th (10 minutes), then treble (5 minutes)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9.00 weekdays (term time) Saints Bell</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>12 noon (Ringing Days): The eight bells=20
rung</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Evensong chiming:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4.30 - 4.35: 6th and 7th=20
ding-dong</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4.35 (if there is a Sermon): 40 blows on=20
tenor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4.45 - 4.55: 5th (slowly)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4.55 - 5.00: treble</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The five bells affected (1,5,6,7 & 8) =
had=20
chiming ropes attached to Ellacombe hammers. They were drawn to the centre =
of=20
the belfry then down through the central hatches of the clock room, ringing=
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chamber, flag store and then to the ground, falling behind the very large=20
monument, by which the vergers sat to officiate. The ropes were simple=20
free-hanging chime cords with a wood toggle on saying which was which. The =
holes=20
are still visible in the wooden circular trap. The rope of the Saints bell =
was=20
and is a proper one with a red salley and a tail end; it falls through=
the=20
various floors in the SW corner - near the ringing room door. This mus=
t=20
qualify as one of the longest bell ropes in the world. I gather that the be=
ll is=20
never used now: a pity, as it was one of the "sounds of=20
Westminster".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In 1971, the old Robert Mot 5th & 7th =
were left=20
up top but hung dead with electro-magnetic clappers. These two now do the=20
(ultra-slow) ding-dong, but it is longer than 5 minutes. After a while it j=
ust=20
becomes the dong. Then the ding. Sermon bells, Saints bell are possibly jus=
t=20
memories.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 1971 bells are a superb ring; but I mi=
ss the=20
old eight (which even rocked the south tower!) - four Mears trebles of 1919=
,=20
then two 18thC and two 16thC - which made an "impressive" sound as they sho=
uted=20
over the Westminster rooftops - and you could hear them above the=20
traffic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Canterbury used to chime the middle six fo=
r=20
Evensong, as do (?did) St Paul's, on an Ellacombe until WWII; the thing was=
=20
still there until the 1980 restoration, and still worked - I remember chimi=
ng=20
for the surprise visit of the Oecumenical Patriarch forty years ago. Latter=
ly=20
they used Bell Harry as a service and curfew bell, but now Great Dunstan gr=
andly=20
fulfills the former role.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No doubt other Cathedrals, especially thos=
e with=20
extra bells, have their own uses. Howard, what do they do with those t=
hree=20
grand old bells at Newcastle ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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title=3Djohn.ketteringham27@n...>John Ketteringham</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 13, 2004 4:19=
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PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Sanctus=
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Angelus bells</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>To get back to the original subject perhaps the way in which the two=
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bells in the North West tower of Lincoln Cathedral are rung for the daily=
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services may be of interest :</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>7.15 am the largest bell is rung 20 times</DIV>
<DIV>9 am the largest bell 81 times </DIV>
<DIV>12 noon the largest bell is rung for the Angelus 3 x 3 x 3 x 9</DIV>
<DIV>3 pm the largest bell is rung 41 times</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For the Curfew the smallest bell is rung 101 times less a numbe=
r=20
equivalent to the date of the month and then the balance on the larger=20
bell. i.e. on the 20th day of the month the smallest bell is rung 8=
1=20
times and then the largest 20 times!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A bell at Holbeach dated 1915 is hung in a bell cote between the Nav=
e and=20
Chancel so it was clearly intended to be sounded at the Elevation during=
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Communion.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At Halton Holegate when Henry Penn cast the ring (of 5 I think) he c=
ast a=20
smaller bell which I have recorded as a Sanctu</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In the 2000 edition of Lincoln Cathedral : A History of the Bel=
ls=20
etc I have reproduced the elaborate pre-Reformation rules for=20
ringing at Lincoln Cathedral.</DIV><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --><B=
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