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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><spa=
n
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">    </span>I think that the impo=
rtant
thing with an EXACT weight is that it implies that someone has actually put=
the
bell on accurate set of scales and recorded the weight properly. The weight=
is
a reflection of what the bell actually weighs, and not a guess/estimate/rep=
uted
weight. As Chris says, a discrepancy of 4 pounds is not earth-shattering, b=
ut
the fact that someone at Whitechapel weighed the bell after tuning and foun=
d
that it weighed 4-0-3, and yet it was subsequently recorded as 3-3-27,
indicates that some sort of transcription error has taken place, and it cou=
ld
have been more significant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><spa=
n
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">    </span>Giles may call me a
nit-picker, but to give another example: when I did a survey of the Monmout=
h
Diocese, I was always puzzled by the 9th at Chepstow. Part of a ring of eig=
ht
from the Evans foundry, Taylors told me it weighed 14-2-8, which made it
unusually thick for an Evans bell, at 42=BE inches in F-sharp. Its thicknes=
s
constant was much greater than the rest of the ring. I even suspected that =
it
may have been recast quietly by Taylors when they restored the bells in 195=
9,
but a visual check showed that this was not the case. Eventually, I was abl=
e to
check the job book for myself, and I was further puzzled by the figures:
received at 13-1-4, sent off at 14-2-8. I showed this to Andrew Higson,
remarking that that must have been one hell of a resin pad! A check of othe=
r
documents revealed a transcription error: the finished weight was 12-2-8, w=
hich
fits in with the characteristics of the rest of the ring.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><spa=
n
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">    </span>Perhaps something sim=
ilar
happened at Woodchurch. We will never know whether this was just the slip o=
f a
pen, or a completely made-up/guessed "exact" weight when the prop=
er
figures were not to hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![i=
f !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Andr=
ew Bull<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy=
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![i=
f !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blac=
k'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> CHRIS PICKFORD
[mailto:c.j.pickford.t21@b...]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 February 2005 03:30=
<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogrou=
ps.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bell Historian=
s]
Woodchurch etc</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmp=
tyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>Brief
contribution this time, but Giles misses the point. Accuracy of weighing is=
n't
really the key issue. It's simply important (in my view) to record the
"best available" weights of bells as <strong><b>one element</b></=
strong>
in a range of descriptive data.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp=
;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>I've
aired my views on this before too. But I think the essence is that we shoul=
d be
looking for the weights as recorded at different times in the history of a
bell, and the weight to go in "Dove" and other reference sources
(including area websites) should be the most recent and/or best
available "recorded weight".</span></font><font color=3Dblac=
k><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp=
;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>In the
case of Woodchurch, a "duff" weight seems to have crept into a nu=
mber
of guides through some error. The correction (a discrepancy of 4lbs, as has
been noted) isn't earth-shattering or significant, but we should be making
amendments to guides in the interests of accuracy - accuracy of information=
, that
is, and not necessarily accuracy of weight.</span></font><font color=3Dblac=
k><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp=
;</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbl=
ack
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>This
may seem like a semantic difference, but this way of looking at the
data does help in an area where a) weighing doesn't seem to be reliabl=
y
accurate, and b) a reasonably practical compromise is needed. Think of figu=
res
as "recorded weights" (rather than exact or accurate weights) and=
we
have a pragmatic solution</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

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:p></span></font></p>

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ack
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'=
>CP</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

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