------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C567C7.C1266940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing this Andrew - very interesting. A few questions which sp= ring to mind from it: 1) Why were the inscriptions on the two trebles reproduced from two out of = the collection of bells sent in for scrap? I wouldn't have thought the insc= riptions are of much note, and nothing was reproduced on the back six. 2) What were they doing scrapping a medieval bell (Luddenden) at this late = a date? By this time such things were frowned upon at the very least. 3) What happened to the back seven bells from Sculcoates, Hull - I'm partic= ularly interested in this as I'm working on a long-term project on the bell= s of the York Diocese, which Hull is in. 4) "So that High Hoyland would not be devoid of a bell the Sanctus bell fro= m the closed St John's Church, Tong Street, Bradford was fitted up for chiming." = - Is this the church that had a 6 bell frame with the 4th and tenor in it? 5) "The single bell of 6.125 cwt. from the "round church" [All Saints Pilgr= im Street] Newcastle" What happened to the ring of eight from here? Aren't the= y said to have been destroyed by fire? "Ron Dove would have known of many of these bells through his work for Pott= s clock makers. It seems remarkable that so many bells should have been used in the casting of the eight and only the former ringing bells got a mention in "Dove". It is the Sculcoates bell and the Sheepscar bell whose inscriptions were used on the two trebles." The Sculcoates bell was a ringing bell too, remember. Given that scrap bell metal was very valuable at this period, I find it som= ewhat surprising that St Wilfrid's is such an 'on the cheap' job, consideri= ng the value of surplus bell metal which there must have been. The frame is= timber and appears to be locally made; the front six have headstocks of st= eel bar (cast iron stocks are on the back two only), and the bells are not = at all easy to handle although they sound nice enough. I always assumed tha= t money had been short, but from this it doesn't really look like it. I won= der why the whole lot wasn't obtained from Taylor's with cast iron stocks = to all bells? David ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C567C7.C1266940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for sharing this Andrew - very inte= resting.=20 A few questions which spring to mind from it:
 
1) Why were the inscriptions on the two tr= ebles=20 reproduced from two out of the collection of bells sent in for scrap? = I=20 wouldn't have thought the inscriptions are of much note, and nothing was=20 reproduced on the back six.
=  
2) What were they doing scrapping a mediev= al bell=20 (Luddenden) at this late a date? By this time such things were frowned upon= at=20 the very least.
 
3) What happened to the back seven bells f= rom=20 Sculcoates, Hull - I'm particularly interested in this as I'm working on a= =20 long-term project on the bells of the York Diocese, which Hull is=20 in.
 
4) "So that High Hoyland would not be devoid of a bell the Sanctus bel= l=20 from the
closed St John's Church, Tong Street, Bradford was fitted up fo= r=20 chiming." - Is this the church that had a 6 bell frame with the 4th an= d=20 tenor in it?

5) "The single bell of 6.125 cwt. from the "round churc= h"=20 [All Saints Pilgrim
Street] Newcastle" What happened to the ring of eigh= t=20 from here? Aren't they said to have been destroyed by fire?
=  
"Ron Dove would have known of many of these bells through his work for= =20 Potts
clock makers.  It seems remarkable that so many bells should = have=20 been used
in the casting of the eight and only the former ringing bells = got a=20 mention
in "Dove".  It is the Sculcoates bell and the Sheepscar bel= l=20 whose
inscriptions were used on the two trebles."
 
The Sculcoates bell was a ringing bell too= ,=20 remember.
 
Given that scrap bell metal was very valua= ble at=20 this period, I find it somewhat surprising that St Wilfrid's is such an 'on= the=20 cheap' job, considering the value of surplus bell metal which there must ha= ve=20 been. The frame is timber and appears to be locally made; the front six hav= e=20 headstocks of steel bar (cast iron stocks are on the back two only), and th= e=20 bells are not at all easy to handle although they sound nice enough. I alwa= ys=20 assumed that money had been short, but from this it doesn't really look lik= e it.=20 I wonder why  the whole lot wasn't obtained from Taylor's with cast ir= on=20 stocks to all bells?
 
David
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