-------------------------------1131317190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The back 8 at Hythe, Kent have twiddle pins fitted - and they appear to be original (1928). These have the old type of Mears headstocks. DLC says: I understand that the present design of Whitechapel headstock was designed in 1938 in connection with the forthcoming installation at Liverpool Anglican Cathedral; so presumably they made their appearance then - that is a calculated guess! The new design of WBF headstock did not appear until the very late 1940's or early 1950's. Most that I have seen of this era are not fitted with twiddle pins. They were fitting them to this design by the early 1960's however (Wells Cathedral in 1964 have them - but are of the small square head type, which break off when you breath on them! I have spent hours in that belfry, drilling the bl***y things out with cobalt drill bits! Matthew Matthew Higby & Co Ltd, Church Bell Engineers. Jasmine Cottage, The Street, Chilcompton, Bath, BA3 4HN. -------------------------------1131317190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable