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To add a tiny little piece to David's information about St. John De
Sepulchre.<br>
<br>
L'Estrange gives no info on bell sizes (5) or weights in his CB of
Norfolk.<br>
J. Arminger Trollope in the Bell News of December 1896 notes that there
are five unringable bells - no weights given.<br>
First Peal was rung in November 1909 - weight of tenor noted as 'about
10 cwt'.<br>
Peal rung in June 1914 notes tenor as 10 cwt. (I did not check all
the peal info).<br>
The Annual Reports for the NDA state 10 cwt (or at least the 1957 one
does).<br>
<br>
The strangest item of all is that in my own records, for when I rang
there in October 1957, the tenor is noted as being 8 1/2 cwt! I
wonder where I obtained that figure from? My Erpingham information
also says 8 1/2 cwt, which I had obviously copied from the St John De
Sepulchre details.<br>
<br>
Finally, in the details of the transfer to Erpingham, RW 1991/341-2,
the tenor at Erpingham is noted as being pre-reformation (Potter) and
having the note of G Sharp and a diameter of 37 1/2 inches and an
aproximate weight of 9 1/2 cwt. <br>
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Best wishes<br>
<br>
Alan Ellis<br>
Vancouver, B.C.<br>
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David Cawley wrote: <br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I have details of the bells given to
me by Bill Hughes some years ago. The 3rd and 4th in five at St John de
Sepulchre were recast and a treble added to make six in 1907; two
further trebles (now at East Haling) were added in 1908. So what are
now the 4th, 5th and tenor at Erpingham did not go in to Whitechapel,
the work in 1907/8 being carried out by Day of Eye, who also built the
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Nevertheless I was given the weight
of 8-3-22 at some point which is a little on the light side given that
the bell retains its canons and has not been tuned. I do not recall the
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<p>I have just noticed something rather suspect with regard to the
stated<br>
weight given in Dove for the tenor of the above church.<br>
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The ring of six were formerly the back six of eight at St John de
Sepulchre<br>
in Norwich. The two trebles of eight went to East Harling to augment the<br>
bells there to eight.<br>
<br>
Dove gives the source of its weight for Erpingham (8-3-22) as the lost
rings<br>
list. What makes me suspicious is that 8-3-22 is also the weight of East<br>
Harling tenor (a Taylor rehang so there will be a measured weight). It
could<br>
be a coincidence, but doesn't seem that likely.<br>
<br>
Can anyone confirm the source of the weight given for Erpingham? I
believe<br>
that the bells were installed by local area ringers, so it is entirely<br>
possible that the bells may not have been weighed. Paul Cattermole's
Norwich<br>
book does not give a measured weight for the bells - it says
approximately<br>
9½ cwt. Has someone mistakenly quoted the tenor weight for East Harling?<br>
<br>
David<br>
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