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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 20, 2006 8:30
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Great Bells of
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<P>I note the debate there has been about the update this year of the <BR>RW
'Great Bells' list. It was certainly not my intention to cause any <BR>offence
(to DLC in particular) and if such has been caused I <BR>apologise. I can
appreciate what a big task it must have been to <BR>create the original list
from its many sources.</P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=3>Certainly, Bill has caused no
offence to me; I take it that he used the old diary list as a starting
point; in my own turn, when I started on it in 1977 I used Ernest Morris's
list which had been a part of the diary for many years, but had a considerable
number of omissions and some errors. These I rectified with help from the
foundries, several Town Clerks and friends on this list. I also added the
dates and founders to the bells included. The title had
originally included the words "By Ernest Morris" and his name was
included with my own in the acknowledgments. The list as I left it was for all
to share, and it was no doubt the publishers' decision to omit our names. So
long as the list is there, I'm happy; but it is perhaps unfair to
attribute it entirely to others.</FONT><BR><BR>Someone else (not on this
list) was originally asked to do the update <BR>to the list in the diary and
my advice was sought when he declined. I <BR>was given the impression that the
list had not been updated for some <BR>years, and so I started with the
nearest diary that came to hand <BR>(1997). David was not acknowledged that
year and I'm afraid I was <BR>unaware of his previous involvement.</P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>I don't know when the acknowledgment
ceased. Bill Viggers used to send me a complimentary diary each year, so it
must have been after the present publisher took them over.</FONT></P><FONT
face=Arial color=#000080 size=3></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
size=3></FONT>
<P><BR><BR>In my defence I did seek the opinions of this list (in April, as I
<BR>recall) and was given help by several subscribers, especially as
<BR>regards the existence or otherwise of the Sunderland bell.</P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>I am sure that it has been on this list before,
but I can find no note, does the Sunderland Hour Bell still
exist?</FONT><BR><BR>As has been pointed out, the criterion for inclusion in
the diary is <BR>the need to fit the list on two pages. In these days of
scalable <BR>fonts that's not the problem it once was, and there is a
convenient <BR>break at 50cwt. According to my calculations the larger of the
new <BR>Cobh bells should join the list at 2 tons 16 cwt 3 qr 22 lbs and I
<BR>will add it. </P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Excellent. Presumably in keeping with present
notation (with all due respect to traditional carillon notation) it will
be </FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Cobh, St Colman (No. 48) 1998
RE 2 16 3 22</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>and Royal Eijsbouts will make a solitary
appearance at the foot of the page.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Thanks and good wishes</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>DLC </FONT> </P>
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