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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I may have come in late on this discussion. I'm no
musician but usually an 'A' is set at 440hz. Are there other standard
pitches such as 'philharmonic? G&J use 335hz as their 'A' . Irrespective of
Note, what are the hz's?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 01, 2006 2:49
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bell Historians] Proto-NBR and
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<P>Without being critical of the work John Baldwin is undertaking, can I
<BR>suggest there should be a review and common agreed standard around <BR>the
recording of individual notes within the scale of a ring of bells?<BR><BR>I
post two examples from the Dove website, one for a ring in C# and <BR>another
for a ring with a tenor given as D#. I seem to recall some <BR>discussion
about how bell notes are listed a while back, but I think <BR>the two
examples, especially the latter, demonstrate how difficult it <BR>can be to
make any sense when using the "piano keyboard view" of a <BR>scale.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.cccbr.org.uk/dove/detail.php?DoveID=BLOXHAM">http://www.cccbr.<WBR>org.uk/dove/<WBR>detail.php?<WBR>DoveID=BLOXHAM</A><BR><BR><A
href="http://www.cccbr.org.uk/dove/detail.php?DoveID=ASHBY+DE+Z">http://www.cccbr.<WBR>org.uk/dove/<WBR>detail.php?<WBR>DoveID=ASHBY+<WBR>DE+Z</A><BR><BR>In
the first example, the correct musical notation would have the <BR>second
expressed as B# and the sixth as E#. The latter example is a <BR>real
confusion of keys, with some notes from the scale of D# <BR>(presumably as
advised by the founder), and others from E-flat! So <BR>you can either have it
as (tenor first) D# E# Fx G# A# B# Cx D# E# Fx <BR>(where x denotes "double
sharp"), or Eb F G Ab Bb C D Eb F G, but not <BR>as-is. To express either ring
as currently published is musical <BR>nonsense, and while I'm sure there are
good intentions behind <BR>recording bells thus, in practice it is
dumbing-down and ultimately <BR>is not helpful. <BR><BR>To the novice pianist,
notes such as B# and E# don't *apparently* <BR>exist on a piano keyboard, but
music written for piano in keys such <BR>as C# include B# and E# in their
scores. All stringed <BR>instrumentalists would have no problem in the concept
of playing an <BR>E# if required!<BR><BR>Bells are musical instruments tuned
to musical keys: let's notate <BR>them as such.<BR><BR>MPAW<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>