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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Ingrid</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The briefest of replies, as I am just off on a
birthday jaunt. I feel badly about not having been in touch and I am concerned
obviously about Jill's progress. Give her much love [yes, and prayers, whether
or not she wants them :) !] At least it sounds as if the hip is doing well. I
had a friend a year ago who had exactly the same problem, and I'm glad to say
all is well, without further surgery now.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>More over or after the weekend, meanwhiole MUCH
love to you both</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 16, 2007 3:05
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<DIV>Hi David,</DIV>
<DIV>I have been trying to email you but since I haven't heard from you in a
while, I am using this unique method to reach you.</DIV>
<DIV>Jill had hip replacement surgery on March 13, was in hospital for 3
nights--thank God, it's an awful, unkind, brutal place--and has been slowly
regaining strength. Hip is fine but her left foot--very arthritic--is causing
major problems now.</DIV>
<DIV>Anyway trust you are well and that the recent high holiday was pleasant
and enjoyable.</DIV>
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<DIV>Much love,</DIV>
<DIV>Ingrid </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the original was</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>MISSI DE CELIS HABEO NOMEN NOMEN
GABRIELIS</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then the translation would be </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I HAVE THE NAME OF GABRIEL SENT FROM
HEAVEN</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which is also correct
'ecclesiastical' Latin, even if not pure classical. My guess is that
the composer of the rhyming hexameter put the 'is' [which is 2nd declension
ablative plural in any gender] to ryme with the genitive
Gabrielis, which is a 3rd declension name. The classic form [allowing for
the fact that they had no Gabiels around at the time] would
be</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DE CELO MISSUS NOMEN GABRIEL
HABEO</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Much less fun!</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LUDO*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>*An Easter egg prize awaits the one who can
swork that out. No list member won last year's!</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR><BR>> Cathedral press officer, the
Reverend Geoff Crago, said: "It is a very<BR>> long time since I did
Latin at school.<BR><BR>> "I can manage Nomen Gabrielis - the name of
Gabriel - but I'm not sure<BR>> about Celis. Even an online Latin
dictionary on the web couldn't help<BR>> me with that
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