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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A lot of truth in this.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I was on the CCC Bells Committee, I succeded
Ranald Clouston in providing "slips" to the CCC giving details in churches which
had been referred to it for a statutory Pastoral Measure Report. This he
started as a voluntary exercise when under the 1968 Measure Declarations of
Redundancy were posted in The Times newspaper. By then a PM report had already
been made and the Council wisely suggested to Ranald that the sooner it could
have the information, the more accurate would be the PM Report. These Reports
are made, incidentally, without prejudice to the eventual decision which is
made. To the best of my knowledge, there were never any problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ranald used to send copies of his slips to Jane
Wilkinson for the CCCBR CfRB; and latterly to me (and now I have copies of every
one which he did from 1968 to 1995, when he handed over the job to me). I know
that Jane received them in the strictest confidence.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was about the time I took over asked by
David Kelly, an old friend, if I would provide slips for the emerging Keltek
Trust. Rather foolishly I asked the Council's officers if I might do so, "in the
same way as I propose sending them to Mrs Wilkinson." The upshot was that I was
told that whereas Ranald had starrted to produce them as a voluntary exercise,
and only later at the Council's request, the ones I produced were from then on
confidential to the Council - and no, I might not. So Jane never got
detailed slips from me, nor did David. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In fairness both of them started receiving from the
Council the complete PM Rerpots; though that doesn't always supply the full
information which I try to provide.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Confidentiality is important; and if one is doing a
job in confidence, one keeps the confidence or gives up doing the job. I still
do the PM Report information slot for the Council, although I no longer serve on
it. There have been times when I have really felt that the information I have
given deserved passing on <EM>at the time </EM>to the CCC CfRB and to Keltek.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As David says there are points on both sides, but I
wonder if obessive concern with confidentiality places a strain on goodwill and
- as see says - credibility.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 9:13 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] St
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<P>--- In <A
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David Bryant <davidbryant@<WBR>...> <BR>wrote:<BR>><BR>>
Sam:<BR>> <BR>> "Perhaps the Redundant Light Bulb Committee of
theCentral Council <BR>should show their worth and rescuethis important ring
of bells."<BR>> <BR>> Out of interest, what has the CC Redundant Bells
Committee done in <BR>the last decade?<BR>> <BR>> David<BR>><BR><BR>I
was on the CC for 15 years and during that time there were endless
<BR>arguments about what the committee did. This was mainly caused by
<BR>Jane's report each year which gave very little detail of action. When
<BR>asked she often stated that their work was of a confidential nature
<BR>and couldn't be discussed. Various members objected to that stating
<BR>that you couldn't have a committee that couldn't revela what it was
<BR>doing. Both points are valid but I am sure some mechanism could have
<BR>been thought out to get round the confidentiality thing. I think it
<BR>was something to do with the information the RBC received which was
<BR>sometimes in advance of the the church in case being informed. I think
<BR>until this is sorted out, the RBC will lack credibility and tends to
<BR>be thought of as a resting place for professional committee people
<BR>rightly or wrongly.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>