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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Surely this tirade from Dr Baron is the
most extraordinary thing that has appeared on this list, bursting as it is with
self-importance. Exactly how many copies of his book on Eastry Old School and
its bell was he hoping to sell? Members of this list have been kind enough to
share with me – and others – files which contain years of hard
work. All this fuss over one picture! It pains me to see someone like David
Cawley being treated so shoddily.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As to Dr Baron’s comments on David
Bryant, so far as I am aware David set up this list, so has to right to
administer it however he pleases. Anyone who dislikes what happens on this list
can simply leave it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hope we can quickly move on from this
thoroughly distasteful episode. Unfortunately, I suspect it may long linger in
the memory, particularly when others from outside the ringing/bell historian
community ask for our help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Andrew Bull<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>michael baron<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 July 2007 18:47<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bell Historians] Response
from Dr. Mike Baron to recent 'List' emails re Eastry 'Sanctus' <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bell</st1:place></st1:City>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>You have just put your finger on the crux of the matter -
David did not ask for my permission first. If he had done so,  I would
have said no, not now, as before publication date, you should regard it as confidential.
After publication, I would have been happy to share information with others.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If you can't distinguish between the useful, mutual exchange
of helpful material (such as sending people corrections on erroneous bell data
& providing missing historical information, etc., - which I thought was the
purpose of the Bell Historians Site) and the necessity of guarding sensitive
data for members commercial activities, <strong><b><u><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>and acknowledge that I have been 'wronged', albeit
unintentionally</span></font></u></b></strong>, then you are not fit to
'moderate' this site.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> If you take the trouble to read your emails properly,
before getting steamed up about them first, then you would acknowledge that;
(a) I acknowledged that David Cawley is a first-class Bell Historian, whom I
liked at first meeting: (b) he has apologized unreservedly to me for his
actions, which I have accepted; (d) had some of your members not ignored
David's wishes <u>not to 'chew over' this private matter</u>  and 'slag me
off'  on your site (presumably allowed by you to do so, in your capacity
as moderator), then I would not have found it necessary to respond publically,
as previously, I had had no intention of using your site for anything other
than participating in the type of exchanges I have seen on there.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Having seen you in operation against another member in very
recent days, I anticipate that you might retaliate by striking me off the
membership of the site. Let us see if you are man enough to keep me on it. If
not, I shall not lose any sleep over my expulsion. Perhaps if you feel so
strongly about it, as you are involved yourself, through your failure to
'moderate' properly, why don't you poll your membership, having first ensured
that they are fully informed  (from both points of view) ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I had hoped that this matter would have been settled quietly
& privately, but David, in only mentioning my "disapprobation"
& failing to provide the full facts, followed by your complicity (as
moderator) in permitting a couple of members 'to shoot their mouths
off , compelled to air my side of things.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In expectation of receiving some just & adult
treatment from the Moderator.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Dr. Mike Baron</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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