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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Sorry to see C.H. Hawkins denigrated by
Neil. We all make mistakes, and Hawkins evidently made one at Rushall, but he
was a good investigator. He did quite a bit in Suffolk and Hertfordshire, and
his very careful rubbings are in the library of the Society of Antiquaries in
London. These are - helpfully for the historian interesting in making
comparisons - grouped by founder and type, rather than by area or
place. From his approach to the subject, I rather think he might have made
better sense of some of the mediaeval founders than some of the researchers
whose works were published - but the Hawkins material remained mostly
unpublished</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you read the Foreword in HBW's Ch Bells of
Wilts it does say 'During the past two or three years Mr Smith, in spite of
the limited time at his disposal, has been indefatigable in scouring the
county as far as he could reach, and has visited some 75 towers, including
many troublesome climbs after inacessible bells'. I suppose if you take HBW at
his word then there were, indeed, some bells Mr Smith did not reach! At
Rushall, HBW relied on a Mr. C.H.Hawkins who failed to observe, even if he got
to the bells, that the Wallis tenor had been recast by Warner in
1872!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To be fair, Jerram undertook a great deal of
ground work himself and had a much better record of accuracy in what he
recorded. His big mistake was rely on Lukis when he could not undertake a
visit himself.</FONT></DIV>
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<P><BR>> <BR>> Yes Walters, like Lukis before him, was originally
published in 'The<BR>> Wiltshire Archaeological Magazine' (WAM) between
1927 and 1929. It relied<BR>> heavily on an earlier manuscript by James
Jerram which is in the Salisbury<BR>> Reference Library.<BR>><BR>>
Some of Walters' informants were not very accurate; I was told to beware
of<BR>> anything contributed by Mr Smith.<BR>><BR>>
Anne<BR><BR>WILTSHIRE: And he wasn't the only culprit.<BR><BR>A new book in
3 parts (I am going to call them volumes this time) along the<BR>lines of
Dorset is on its way. But Rome wasn't built in a day, as they say.<BR><BR>C
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