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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>SDGR web
site.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>It looks pretty but
has little direct information</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>Ours is not the best web
sight but at least you can look up a tower and know immediately who to contact
if you want to know if having found a free evening, weather the various towers
listed as ringing will be so doing.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>Try that on the SDGR and
you just cant do it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>SDGR have an anonymous
contact system which may or may not work. our site has data protection act
cleared contacts for most churches.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>You cannot get a list of
all tower that practice on a particular night either without a lot of fiddling
or on one page.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007></SPAN><SPAN
class=170432013-19092007>There is not a single direct contact so you cannot use
the site for ANY quick checks.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>Probably the most useless
association sites on the web for any instant information.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007>No diary of events, just
association events and some do not even have times.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Have a look at the HCA site.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=170432013-19092007></SPAN><SPAN
class=170432013-19092007></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>N<SPAN
class=170432013-19092007>ot the best out there but at least it tries to be
helpful.</SPAN></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Anne
Willis<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 September 2007 11:56<BR><B>To:</B>
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians]
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<P><BR>I think Mark's point about Diocesan and County associations being
outdated<BR>is well proved by an average meeting of such an association. I
haven't been<BR>to a Yorkshire Association meeting for quite a while, but last
time I did<BR>grey heads predominated - what do these Victorian institutions
offer younger<BR>people? Very little, it would appear.
<BR><BR>David<BR><BR>Before you utterly condemn Guilds and Associations think
what they can do.<BR>My own Guild (SDGR) is far from perfect but it does produce
an informative<BR>report and run a decent website that makes contacting towers
as easy as<BR>possible; run a Bell Restoration Fund that offers grants of up to
10% of the<BR>cost of a project; provide funds for training courses and setting
up ringing<BR>centres; act as a focal point for the distribution of books and
CCCBR<BR>material; produce a very good quarterly newsletter, one for every tower
and<BR>on the website.<BR><BR>One thing the Guild does not do is encourage
ringers in team/group<BR>ministries to act as a unit to ensure that as many
bells as possible are<BR>rung as often as possible. It is difficult fighting a
'my tower and here I<BR>stay' attitude, but it can be done if ringers and clergy
co-operate.<BR><BR>Anne<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BODY></HTML>
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