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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is what we will probably end up with.
A new lighter ten below and the old hung on beams higher up. The Chancellor
will have the options and he will decide. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The present bells can’t be hung
lower in the tower. All of the floors, bell chamber, clock room and ringing
room are stone. The present bells are in an H frame with 8 bells below and 2
above. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>davidhird_uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 01 October 2007 09:05<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] Re: <st1:City w:st="on">St Paul</st1:City>'s and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chelsea</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So what do you actually want to do at St Lukes?<br>
<br>
Sounds like it is a case for hanging the current bells for chiming <br>
high in the tower to satisfy the conservationists and hanging a new <br>
10 lower down the tower. Wish they had done that at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Durham</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
Are the bells actually too heavy or are they just hung too high up <br>
in a frame which doesnt resolve the forces as well as it could?<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>,
<alantaylor@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I am extremely glad that they are the only complete pre-tune <br>
harmonic 12 to<br>
> survive. I am also thankful that they are unique.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> If you think they should be listed and preserved, I would suggest <br>
that they<br>
> be put on display in the church yard. Then hang a musical peal of <br>
bells in<br>
> the tower. Just imagine a sound such as the bells of York Minster <br>
sounding<br>
> from the tower. I can't imagine that the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">St Paul</st1:place></st1:City>'s ringers would <br>
mind. As<br>
> long as the tenor is heavy they would be happy.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> We have the same problem with the bells of St Luke's <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chelsea</st1:place></st1:City>. They <br>
sound<br>
> dreadful; they are too heavy for the tower and therefore go badly. <br>
But we<br>
> are told they should be preserved as they are historically <br>
interesting as a<br>
> Thomas Mears 2nd peal of ten. I wonder why Thomas Mears 2nd bells <br>
are<br>
> getting rare. Although the last report from The Council for the <br>
Care of<br>
> Churches, said they felt the bells should be preserved as a peal <br>
of TM2nd<br>
> ten bells. But, as the trebles were so awful, new bells could be <br>
cast and<br>
> hung in their place. But the old trebles should be hung dead in <br>
the tower.<br>
> This breathtaking logic seems to miss the point, that with new <br>
trebles, the<br>
> ring would no longer be a TM2 ten. And, the bells would still be <br>
too heavy<br>
> for the tower, and therefore the tower would still sway and this <br>
would<br>
> therefore make the bells tricky to ring. St Luke's is to go to the <br>
expense<br>
> of a consistory court.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> There is often the same debate over pipe organs. It doesn't matter <br>
what it<br>
> sounds like, or if it is capable of accompanying a congregation or <br>
choir,<br>
> it's old and therefore should be preserved.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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