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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry to come in late on this (just back
after a week away).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My spectacles frame broke last year and I had
it replaced. Should I have retained the old one?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=5 color=navy
face=Absalom><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Absalom;color:navy'>Peter
Humphreys</span></font></st1:PersonName><font color=navy><span
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w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Mount</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>,
Bebington, Wirral. CH63 5RD</span></font><font color=navy><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Bryant<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 March 2008 14:29<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians] <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bell</st1:place></st1:City> frame for sale (of
no practical use)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>"Actually I found the advert a
bit low-key and hardly overselling it (It <br>
could have been 'Unique example of seventeenth century carpentry').<br>
<br>
The real question was whether anyone knew anything about it and if it is <br>
of any unusual interest. Placing a small ad in the Church Times might <br>
indicate lack of knowledge or lack of wider interest."<br>
<br>
Realistically, who is going to want it? If they find someone they will be very
lucky!<br>
<br>
I really do think that the current 'save everything' approach is getting out of
hand. Yes some, particularly good examples of frames which are representative
of their period of construction should be saved but what is really achieved by
keeping as many as we seem to now? I've seen a few examples of
moderately-interesting but not unique frames put on RSJs at the top of the
tower, where it's pretty much impossible to inspect them properly and they are
removed from their original context being in a different place in the tower and
without the bells. Surely in many cases the need for historical evidence would
be better served by a detailed documentary record and the preservation of, say,
a representative frame truss mounted on the wall of the ringing chamber?<br>
<br>
The basic problem seems to be that English Heritage (and DACs in some cases)
seem to consider worn-out bell frames to be of more significance than the
continuation of the tradition of change ringing. In cases such as that at
Romsey Abbey, where the existing frame was repaired at considerable expense
with no guarantee that it would be suitable afterwards, you have to wonder what
the point is. It is highly debatable whether the historical significance of
this frame was such that it was worthwhile spending more on it than a new frame
would have cost, and given how much timber had to be replaced can it really be
considered the original frame in any case?<br>
<br>
David <br>
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