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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Optima><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>Sounds sensible to me </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Higson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 April 2008 4:39
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians]
Nominal or hum</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>A good question.<o></o></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>My perception is that the change
from nominal dominated to hum dominated tone occurs between a 13” (or
there abouts) F and the D above. That fits nicely in with using the C in
between as the change over point.<o></o></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Richard Offen</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 April 2008 09:26<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians]
Nominal or hum</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 color=black face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;
color:black'>I would suggest “4 x y” –(where y = hum note of
bell) would be the least confusing way of doing it.<o></o></span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;
color:black'><o> </o></span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;
color:black'>Just out of interests, at what diameter do you swap from nominal
to hum?<o></o></span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:<st1><st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1></st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Higson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 April 2008 3:43
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1><st1><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bell Historians] Nominal
or hum</span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>John Baldwin and I have been discussing the best way to
display the details of the new carillon bells at the Minster in the Dove entry.<o></o></span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>One thing we are unsure about is how best to show the
pitch of the smallest bells, this being because their pitch is more determined
by the hum than the nominal. In fact the nominals of these small bells are very
weak and almost un-measurable. <o></o></span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>In the <st1><st1><st1><st1><st1><st1><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Taylor</st1></st1></st1></st1></st1></st1></st1:place></st1:City>
records we show the hum for the smaller bells; would this cause confusion or
would it be better to put a hypothetical 4xhum note value?<o></o></span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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"Baskerville Old Face"'>We would welcome your comments.<o></o></span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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Eayre and Smith Ltd</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>The Bellfoundry</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>Freehold Street</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Baskerville Old Face"'>Loughborough</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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"Baskerville Old Face"'>LE11 1AR</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Baskerville Old Face"'>Telephone: 01509 212241 Fax: 01509 263305
Registered in <st1><st1><st1><st1><st1><st1><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">England</st1></st1></st1></st1></st1></st1></st1:place></st1:country-region>
No. 1352309</span></font><o></o><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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