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bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>George Dawson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 August 2008 16:37<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bell Historians] Re:
Diameters (was Dogmersfield)</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-sorry
about that last one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It used
to be a cause of great ribbing between the late Christopher Dalton & myself
that we got differing diameters, he said I did not move the clapper out of the
way enough, but then he used a wooden (folding) measure, whilst I used a steel
tape. Ran Clouston even had a special narrow steel tape for measuring shoulder
circumferences. Perhaps we out to have a national standard on these things
(perhaps the CBC could organise a seminar, and whilst we are at it how to do a
rubbing properly).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From
sunny <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>George<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=<br>
Message Received: Aug 07 2008, 02:45 PM<br>
From: "Chris Pickford" <br>
<C>To: bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com<br>
Cc: <br>
Subject: [Bell Historians] Re: Diameters (was Dogmersfield)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We've been here before, I think, but no two people -
bellfounders or what the Victorians used to term "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bell</st1:place></st1:City> hunters" - will measure diameters
exactly the same. Even people who are careful and measuring in idea
circumstances may vary by up to 1/8" and sometimes more. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>While some bells are elliptical, that's not really a
major reason for variations in quoted diameters. It's much more about
human error, access, degree of care and (let's not forget it) the accuracy of
measuring equipment - minor damage to the end of a steel tape can easily lead
to an error of 1/16" or more.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Anyway, all I'm really saying is that while accurate
measurement is clearly desirable, there's a practical limit - and it's not
worth getting het up about differences of 1/8" or 1/16" </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>CP</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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