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bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 August 2008 16:38<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bell</st1:place></st1:City> Historians] GAD</span></font><span
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here in WA!<o></o></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>
[mailto:<st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of <st1></span></b>Andrew Higson</st1><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 7 August 2008
11:36 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [<st1><st1><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bell</st1></st1></st1:place></st1:City>
Historians] GAD</span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3 color=blue
face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Taylors</span></font></st1:place></st1:City></st1></st1></st1></st1><font
color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'> Eayre and Smith Ltd</span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Telephone: 01509 212241
Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <st1><st1><st1><st1><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">England</st1></st1></st1></st1></st1:place></st1:country-region> No.
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bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>
[mailto:<st1>bellhistori<wbr>ans@yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>George Dawson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 August 2008 16:31<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians] Re:
Diameters (was Dogmersfield)</span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>testing<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o></o>============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=<br>
Message Received: Aug 07 2008, 02:45 PM<br>
From: "Chris Pickford" <br>
<C>To: <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1><br>
Cc: <br>
Subject: [Bell Historians] Re: Diameters (was Dogmersfield)<o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We've been
here before, I think, but no two people - bellfounders or what the Victorians
used to term "<st1><st1><st1><st1><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bell</st1></st1></st1></st1></st1:place></st1:City>
hunters" - will measure diameters exactly the same. Even people who are
careful and measuring in idea circumstances may vary by up to 1/8" and
sometimes more. </span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>While some
bells are elliptical, that's not really a major reason for variations
in quoted diameters. It's much more about human error, access, degree of care
and (let's not forget it) the accuracy of measuring equipment - minor damage to
the end of a steel tape can easily lead to an error of 1/16" or more.</span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyway, all
I'm really saying is that while accurate measurement is clearly desirable,
there's a practical limit - and it's not worth getting het up about differences
of 1/8" or 1/16" </span></font><o></o><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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