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[mailto:bellhistori<WBR>ans@yahoogroups.<WBR>com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>George Dawson<BR><B><SPAN
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Bell Historians] Re: Diameters
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-sorry
about that last one.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It used to
be a cause of great ribbing between the late Christopher Dalton & myself
that we got differing diameters, he said I did not move the clapper out of the
way enough, but then he used a wooden (folding) measure, whilst I used a steel
tape. Ran Clouston even had a special narrow steel tape for measuring shoulder
circumferences. Perhaps we out to have a national standard on these things
(perhaps the CBC could organise a seminar, and whilst we are at it how to do a
rubbing properly).<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>From sunny
<ST1><ST1>Germany</ST1></ST1>.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">George<BR><BR><BR><BR><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">============<WBR>=========<WBR>=========<WBR>=========<WBR>=<BR>Message
Received: Aug 07 2008, 02:45 PM<BR>From: "Chris Pickford" <BR><C>To:
bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR>Cc: <BR>Subject: [Bell Historians]
Re: Diameters (was Dogmersfield)<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We've been here before, I think,
but no two people - bellfounders or what the Victorians used to term
"<ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1> hunters" - will measure diameters exactly the
same. Even people who are careful and measuring in idea circumstances may vary
by up to 1/8" and sometimes more. </SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">While some bells are elliptical,
that's not really a major reason for variations in quoted diameters.
It's much more about human error, access, degree of care and (let's not forget
it) the accuracy of measuring equipment - minor damage to the end of a steel
tape can easily lead to an error of 1/16" or
more.</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway, all I'm really saying is
that while accurate measurement is clearly desirable, there's a practical
limit - and it's not worth getting het up about differences of 1/8" or 1/16"
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