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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can add some more to this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In 1880 they added 5 bells to the chime:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>5.3.21<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>6.0.20<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>8.1.14<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>11.3.20<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>16.0.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This implies that of the old 6, bells 1, 2 & 4 were replaced
(previously cracked?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Clearly then it sounds as though this should be added to the ‘Lost
Rings…’ list. It would be interesting to find out how all the bells are now
hung (yes I know what dead means), but are the old surviving three on old
deadstocks, & what exactly is the framework.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>David Cawley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 October 2008 16:59<br>
<b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] Trinity Church bells, Port of Spain,
Trinidad.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div id=ygrp-mlmsg>
<div id=ygrp-msg>
<div id=ygrp-text>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bells
for Trinidad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Whitechapel
Foundry printed catalogues:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1880
- No mention found.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1884
- West Indies.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
Trinidad Catholic Church 8 bells 13 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
Trinidad New Church 6 bells 16 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
Trinidad English Cathedral 5, to complete set of 8 bells 16cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1890
- To America (!)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Trinidad
Cathedral, Port of Spain, 8 bells tenor 16 cwt, total 72 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
Trinidad, R. C. 8 bells, tenor 13 cwt, total 56 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1895
- To Colonies and British Possessions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1880
TRINIDAD CATHEDRAL 8 ... 16 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1830
Trinidad Catholic Church </span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>8 ... 13 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
1878 Trinidad Presbyterian Church ... 1 bell, 6 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1912
- To Colonies and British Possessions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
1880 TRINIDAD CATHEDRAL 8 ... 16 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1830
Trinidad R.
C. 8
... 13 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1902
Trinidad, Aruca Church 1 bell, 6 1/4 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1878
Trinidad, Presbyterian Church 1 bell, 6 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1919
- As in the 1912 catalogue with addition of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> 1914
Trinidad, St Mary's
1 bell, 7 1/4 cwt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That
is the last of their 'everything in" catalogues - the next one was
1925, which contains nothing more than "Trinidad Cathedral" among the
Cathedrals containing Bells from the Foundry.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nothing
in my copies of Warner, Taylor or G&J catalogues / brochures.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have a feeling that the "New Church" referred to in the 1884
catalogue is possibly Sir Ralph Woodward's church of 1823; if so the foundry
had not realised this when they supplied five new bells (two new and three
recast) to make the chime of eight in 1880. Most of these dates are
at variance with the GCNA site; so it would be interesting to know ther
source for their dates of 1819 [1] 1871 [1] 1880 [2] and unknown [4]. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This
only partially answers Malcolm's questions - if at all - but is I hope not
entirely devoid of interest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>DLC</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:david@KpEzPVU8aMTJl6bmW5C8Vc74b_rhVwx0KhiPokwre9J2_UG31q-8WIu_63yNuvEJE-5E4SOVBmwFyPN9Gzk.yahoo.invalid.uk"
title="david@6mH_ZUkGJyBMy5aly4UTa4H3r1fbiaLMxkBRFAZgShIJkK0hRQycwMaVnrLyLk24ZWaWp36AXTIIP1TWHc1l.yahoo.invalid">David Bagley</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com"
title="bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, October
25, 2008 9:10 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Bell
Historians] Trinity Church bells, Port of Spain, Trinidad.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>There's some more information at :-<br>
<a href="http://www.gcna.org/data/TTPORTSP.HTM">http://www.gcna.org/data/TTPORTSP.HTM</a><br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
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From: <<a href="mailto:RingingMatters@ouHn-1hN811HbdsuLb1stNjGb5tN45ZPDQW1zQG2d0NsDtxyEokfX7q4NLegCNBWT0iAZjRU3V13L3qmfg.yahoo.invalid">RingingMatters@ouHn-1hN811HbdsuLb1stNjGb5tN45ZPDQW1zQG2d0NsDtxyEokfX7q4NLegCNBWT0iAZjRU3V13L3qmfg.yahoo.invalid</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:26 PM<br>
Subject: [Bell Historians] Trinity Church bells, Port of Spain, Trinidad.<br>
<br>
While I was doing some family history research at The Society of<br>
Genealogists, I came across the following intriguing story:<br>
<br>
On 23rd May 1823, Sir Ralph Woodford, Governor of Trinidad attended the<br>
consecration of Trinity Church, Port of Spain, Trinidad.<br>
<br>
The following extract is taken from “The History of the West Indian Islands<br>
of Trinidad & Tobago 1498 - 1900” by Gertrude Carmichael<br>
<br>
“Woodford was very generous to the new church. He … gave … a peal of six<br>
bells. The bells he was unable to hear, for though they were mounted with<br>
wheels and ropes, there was no one in the colony who could ring… Later a <br>
Mr<br>
Fuller and six others “who felt inclined to learn the art of ringing” and <br>
who<br>
had gone to the expense of purchasing a set of sixteen handbells and who “<br>
expected a ringing tutor from England”, came forward with proposals for <br>
organised<br>
bell-ring. In spite of this Woodford was destined never to hear his bells<br>
ring, for the great earthquake of September 20th, 1825, damaged the church <br>
and<br>
the tower had to be rebuilt, the bells not being rehung for some years.”<br>
<br>
1. Do we know who cast these bells?<br>
2. Who hung them?<br>
3. How the project was completed without Governor Woodward, or his project<br>
co-ordinator being told that trained ringers would be required to ring the<br>
bells?<br>
4. Who rehung the bells years after the earthquake?<br>
5. What happened to these bells. Are they still there and/or in use?<br>
<br>
Malcolm Bland<o:p></o:p></p>
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