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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just to complete the previous list: </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The 1877/80 Mears catalogue (it is in a
different format and was I think largely laid out in 1877, with an extra page
added at a reprinting in 1880) gives:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Among places where 8 bells have been
supplied:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isle of Trinidad, Catholic Church. Weight of
largest bell - cwt 13</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Among places where 6 bells have been
supplied</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isle of Trinidad, New Church. Weight of largest
bell - cwt 16</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It would be interesting as Carl says to know more
about the RC bells. As has been stated on this site before, it was rare, prior
to c 1850, for sets of bells cast in England to be fitted
up other than for full-circle ringing (unless they were simply
clock bells, more often than not at the time ting-tang and hour); the only sets
I can think of readily are the Royal Exchange bells which, in their various
incarnations have always been hung 'dead' and Stapleford in Leicestershire,
where the front five of an old six were hung 'dead' in the mid
18th-century, to facilitate being played by a barrell. And since the 16 cwt
Trinidad six seems (a) to have been at the 'New Church' and (b) possibly -
as in Malcolm's extract - able to be properly rung for a few years, one is
tempted to ask if interest in them waned following the earthquake and the
installation of the RC bells? All very conjectural, but worth following
up.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DLC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:26
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bell Historians] Trinity
Church bells, Port of Spain, Trinidad.</DIV>
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<P>At 16:59 +0100 08/10/25, David Cawley wrote:<BR>>Most of these dates are
at variance with the GCNA site; so it would <BR>>be interesting to know
ther source for their dates of 1819 [1] 1871 <BR>>[1] 1880 [2] and unknown
[4].<BR><BR>Source: RW 14 Apr 1995, p.377, text and photos. I assume that the
<BR>visitor who reported these bells could not inspect four of them
<BR>closely enough to see what dates are in the inscriptions.<BR><BR>David,
thanks for the information from the Whitechapel catalogues. <BR>None of that
information was available to me before. Your words <BR>"five new bells (two
new and three recast) to make the chime of eight <BR>in 1880" are certainly a
logical deduction, but I don't see the <BR>supporting evidence in the extracts
which you cited. However, some <BR>amount of recasting is certainly possible
in view of the quotation <BR>about damage to the church in 1825.<BR><BR>I
wonder whether the 5-bell notation in the 1884 catalogue is similar <BR>to the
8-bell notation in the later catalogues - a summary of work <BR>completed,
rather than the report of a single job. If the recasting <BR>of bells damaged
in 1825 (or later) occurred in 1871, and the <BR>expansion from 6 to 8
occurred in 1880, that would fit. But 1819 <BR>remains
unexplained.<BR><BR>Anybody have a friend in Trinidad who could go look for
us? ;-)<BR><BR>Carl<BR>GCNA Webmaster<BR><BR>P.S. From elsewhere on the Web:
Trinity Church became Trinity <BR>Cathedral, and in 1930 the British colonial
government gave to <BR>Trinity a tower clock; it was accompanied by a
"Westminster <BR>eight-bell chime system" given by a ship's captain in memory
of his <BR>wife.<BR><BR>P.P.S. I'd love to know which Catholic Church got an
octave in 1830, <BR>and whether it survives!<BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>