<div>Ah, that would be Geoff Stickland then!!!! I only looked up the tuning figures because Ruth (Stickland) kept going on about how much weight the bells had lost in tuning - did she really ask for a refund for the "lost" metal? She seemed satisfied when I explained to her what had been done.</div> <div> </div> <div>I never rang at Quedgeley before the retuning, but have rung on them very regularly since moving to Dursley in 1994 (my wife and I have known the Sticklands for many years, and they are godparents to our younger son). I think the bells are quite pleasant tonally, and a good example of how old bells can be retuned to near true-harmonic standards without losing their "character".</div> <div> </div> <div>I have the figures "as received" in 1993, and they were definitely old-style. I would be very interested to know how the bellfoundries decide how to approach retuning of old bells. For example, Berkeley in Gloucestershire were retuned by Taylors in
1978, but all that was done was to adjust the nominals slightly - the partials were not altered. Certainly these bells could have done with some Quedgeley-style treatment (and perhaps the four trebles recasting!). What criteria govern how much tuning can be done?</div> <div> </div> <div>Andrew Bull<BR><BR><B><I>Andrew Higson <andrew.higson@mjcsY3fYXlsj7qhPKp6flAfOAt3s9-9joaISj2VDchgoNjhl6yefyG3jZiUO3-0rZRhq3twle6zJqh_hmbC_pl56bEcAs2y5.yahoo.invalid></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <div> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old
Face'">The latter.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Andrew Higson</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><ST1><ST1><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Taylors</SPAN></FONT></ST1></ST1><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'"> Eayre and Smith Ltd</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">The Bellfoundry</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Freehold Street</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Loughborough</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">LE11 1AR</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Telephone: 01509 212241 Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <ST1><ST1>England</ST1></ST1> No. 1352309</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com [mailto:bellhistori<WBR>ans@yahoogroups.<WBR>com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Andrew Bull<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 24 November 2008 10:52<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [<ST1>Bell</ST1> Historians] <ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><O></O></SPAN></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Was this the retuning at <ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1>, or the retuning at Quedgeley?<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Andrew Bull<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Andrew Higson <andrew.higson@<WBR>taylorbells.<WBR>co.uk></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid"> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">They weren’t overly sharp before I started. The incumbent was very grumpy about what I had done until the organist observed how pleasant and musical the bells were after the retune.<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'"><O></O>Andrew Higson</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV><ST1><ST1> <div class=MsoNormal><ST1><ST1><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Taylors</SPAN></FONT></ST1></ST1><FONT face="Baskerville Old
Face" color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'"></ST1></ST1> Eayre and Smith Ltd</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">The Bellfoundry</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Freehold Street</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Loughborough</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">LE11
1AR</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Baskerville Old Face" color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Baskerville Old Face'">Telephone: 01509 212241 Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>England</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> No. 1352309</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com [mailto:bellhistori<WBR>ans@yahoogroups.<WBR>com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Richard Offen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 23 November 2008 21:40<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [<ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1> Historians] <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV></DIV><O></O><O></O> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Optima color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima">Did they really manage to get octave hum notes out of the Rudhall bells at Quedgley?<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O></DIV> <DIV><O></O> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Optima color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima"><O></O>R<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O></DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O></O></SPAN></FONT> <DIV><O></O> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1> [mailto:<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Andrew Bull<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, 24 November 2008 12:55 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [<ST1><ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1></ST1>
Historians] <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O></DIV></DIV><O></O><O></O> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I imagine that the present 5<SUP>th</SUP> and treble will have to be recast, as they would need to be sharpened by a semitone to make 9<SUP>th</SUP> and 4<SUP>th</SUP> of ten with the present 7<SUP>th</SUP> as tenor. Presumably the others would be retuned as well, though I believe they were in fact retuned in 1988 (as well as 1890). It would be interesting to know who is doing the job, and whether the new bells will be old-style or true-harmonic. Quedgeley, in <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Gloucester</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1>, also largely Rudhall 1732, were retuned in 1993 and converted into a true-harmonic ring, which the exception of the 1850
<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Taylor</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> sixth, which obviously caused the tuned some problems.<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O></DIV> <DIV><O></O><O></O> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O>Andrew Bull<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O></DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O></O></SPAN></FONT> <DIV><O></O><O></O> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1> [mailto:<ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Richard Offen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 23 November 2008 15:42<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> Historians] <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O><O></O></DIV></DIV><O></O><O></O><O></O> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Optima color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima">I hope they are going to be tuned, the present 6<SUP>th</SUP> is horribly flat (almost
a ¼ semitone)!<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O><O></O></DIV> <DIV><O></O><O></O><O></O> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Optima color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima"><O></O>R<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O><O></O></DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O></O></SPAN></FONT> <DIV><O></O><O></O><O></O> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <ST1><ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1></ST1>
[mailto:<ST1><ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1></ST1>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Andrew Watkins<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 23 November 2008 11:46 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1><ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1></ST1><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> Historians] <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O><O></O><O></O><O></O></DIV></DIV><O></O><O></O><O></O><O></O> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><BR><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> are going to be made into a 10, with the present 7th as the tenor. The bells are coming out on the 3rd December. Sorry I can't tell you much more at present.<BR><BR>Andrew Watkins<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV><O></O> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: red 1.5pt solid"> <DIV><O></O> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O><O></O>============<WBR>=========<WBR>=========<WBR>=========<WBR>=<BR>Message Received: Nov 23 2008, 12:58 PM<BR>From: "Richard Offen" <BR>To: <ST1><ST1><ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1></ST1></ST1><BR>Cc: <BR>Subject: RE: [<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> Historians]
<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV><O></O> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O><O></O><O></O>I guess they are either going up to ten or twelve, as has been planned for<BR>the last five years or so - they have two of the Gillett bells from the old<BR>ring at <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Kidderminster</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> in store.<BR><BR>R<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]<BR>On Behalf Of David Bryaant<BR>Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2008 9:41 PM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>Subject:
[<ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1> Historians] <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1><BR><BR>What's happening at <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Ludlow</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1>, then?<BR><BR><A href="http://www.campanophile.co.uk/show.aspx?Code=74540">http://www.campanop<WBR>hile.co.uk/<WBR>show.aspx?<WBR>Code=74540</A><BR><<A href="http://www.campanophile.co.uk/show.aspx?Code=74540">http://www.campanop<WBR>hile.co.uk/<WBR>show.aspx?<WBR>Code=74540</A>> <BR><BR>Is the augmentation to 12+2# proposed a few years ago now going ahead?<BR><BR>David<BR><BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/">http://www.avg.<WBR>com</A> <BR>Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 11/22/2008<BR>6:59
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