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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>1901
re-hang and retune. They came down quite a lot in pitch  - about 70 cents on average.
Looking at the figures I think it is significant that the back 5 all have
unison fundamentals. This tends to make the difference – i.e. two out of
3 octaves in tune. I’m therefore not surprised Sam thinks they are good,
but it is the true harmonic content that makes them. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Probably.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>I
suspect the tower might be kind too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Higson</span></font><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3
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color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'> Eayre and Smith Ltd</span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Bellfoundry</span></font><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Telephone: 01509 212241
Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>
No. 1352309</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sam Austin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 November 2008 13:03<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I think this has varying degrees of success.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Some bells just wont go true harmonic and its best not to try. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I wonder what <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Taylor</st1:place></st1:City>'s
did at Leigh, Gtr Manchester. They were tuned at the last rehung by
them and sound really good. Definitely not true harmonic nor would I want them
to be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Aye<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Bull <<a
href="mailto:a_m_bull@rvWDb6QZVFBsdNqa2CzP2FD_GVIIvObKoRzQiicxeg1l7owuXd3QXKhh8-pS_W7QkExrHT6hyD8kZXw.yahoo.invalid">a_m_bull@yahoo.<wbr>co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ah, that would be Geoff Stickland then!!!! I only
looked up the tuning figures because Ruth (Stickland) kept going on about how
much weight the bells had lost in tuning - did she really ask for a refund for
the "lost" metal? She seemed satisfied when I explained to her what
had been done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I never rang at Quedgeley before the retuning, but
have rung on them very regularly since moving to Dursley in 1994 (my wife and I
have known the Sticklands for many years, and they are godparents to our
younger son). I think the bells are quite pleasant tonally, and a good example
of how old bells can be retuned to near true-harmonic standards without losing
their "character".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have the figures "as received" in 1993,
and they were definitely old-style. I would be very interested to know how the
bellfoundries decide how to approach retuning of old bells. For example, <st1:City
w:st="on">Berkeley</st1:City> in Gloucestershire were retuned by <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Taylors</st1:place></st1:City> in 1978, but all
that was done was to adjust the nominals slightly - the partials were not
altered. Certainly these bells could have done with some Quedgeley-style
treatment (and perhaps the four trebles recasting!). What criteria govern how
much tuning can be done?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Andrew Bull<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Andrew Higson <<a
href="mailto:andrew.higson@0_jrlrCS8oJAXTNVOFySDlS6V1vOuGsiAKP9dPFg9dwa-_ZTQ9RPeF_vU4Xy1of8mnf6vG6a10aa4hA4YBSLzuQ-9fgX9dw0.yahoo.invalid" target="_blank">andrew.higson@<wbr>taylorbells.<wbr>co.uk</a>></span></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>The latter.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Andrew Higson</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on"><font size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Taylors</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'> Eayre and Smith Ltd</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:blue'>The Bellfoundry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Freehold Street</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Telephone: 01509 212241 Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> No.
1352309</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Bull<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 November 2008 10:52<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Was this the retuning at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City>, or the retuning at Quedgeley?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Andrew Bull<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Andrew Higson <<a
href="mailto:andrew.higson@0_jrlrCS8oJAXTNVOFySDlS6V1vOuGsiAKP9dPFg9dwa-_ZTQ9RPeF_vU4Xy1of8mnf6vG6a10aa4hA4YBSLzuQ-9fgX9dw0.yahoo.invalid" target="_blank">andrew.higson@<wbr>taylorbells.<wbr>co.uk</a>></span></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>They weren't overly sharp before I started. The incumbent was very
grumpy about what I had done until the organist observed how pleasant and
musical the bells were after the retune.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Andrew Higson</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on"><font size=3 color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Taylors</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
color=blue face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'> Eayre and Smith Ltd</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:blue'>The Bellfoundry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Loughborough</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>LE11 1AR</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Telephone: 01509 212241 Fax: 01509 263305 Registered in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> No.
1352309</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 23 November 2008 21:40<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>Did
they really manage to get octave hum notes out of the Rudhall bells at
Quedgley?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>R</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Bull<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 24 November 2008
12:55 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I imagine that the present
5<sup>th</sup> and treble will have to be recast, as they would need to be
sharpened by a semitone to make 9<sup>th</sup> and 4<sup>th</sup> of ten with
the present 7<sup>th</sup> as tenor. Presumably the others would be retuned as
well, though I believe they were in fact retuned in 1988 (as well as 1890). It
would be interesting to know who is doing the job, and whether the new bells
will be old-style or true-harmonic. Quedgeley, in <st1:City w:st="on">Gloucester</st1:City>,
also largely Rudhall 1732, were retuned in 1993 and converted into a
true-harmonic ring, which the exception of the 1850 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Taylor</st1:place></st1:City> sixth, which obviously caused the
tuned some problems.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Andrew Bull</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 23 November 2008 15:42<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>I
hope they are going to be tuned, the present 6<sup>th</sup> is horribly flat
(almost a ¼ semitone)!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=Optima><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>R</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Watkins<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 23 November 2008
11:46 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City> are going
to be made into a 10, with the present 7th as the tenor. The bells are coming
out on the 3rd December. Sorry I can't tell you much more at present.<br>
<br>
Andrew Watkins<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=<br>
Message Received: Nov 23 2008, 12:58 PM<br>
From: "Richard Offen" <br>
To: <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
Cc: <br>
Subject: RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City> Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City><br>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I guess they are either going up to ten or twelve, as
has been planned for<br>
the last five years or so - they have two of the Gillett bells from the old<br>
ring at <st1:place w:st="on">Kidderminster</st1:place> in store.<br>
<br>
R<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of David Bryaant<br>
Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2008 9:41 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bellhistorians%40yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br>
Subject: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City> Historians] <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<br>
What's happening at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ludlow</st1:place></st1:City>,
then?<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.campanophile.co.uk/show.aspx?Code=74540" target="_blank">http://www.campanop<wbr>hile.co.uk/<wbr>show.aspx?<wbr>Code=74540</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.campanophile.co.uk/show.aspx?Code=74540" target="_blank">http://www.campanop<wbr>hile.co.uk/<wbr>show.aspx?<wbr>Code=74540</a>>
<br>
<br>
Is the augmentation to 12+2# proposed a few years ago now going ahead?<br>
<br>
David<br>
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