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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I was a Diocesan Secretary in the late
1970’s when the then Government introduced State Aid for Churches. Many of us
were concerned about the small print and conditions attached to this Aid but
the C of E grabbed it with both hands.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>We are living with the consequences of
this decision every day of which Malvern is just one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Bull<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 March 2009 19:00<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bell</st1:place></st1:City> Historians] Great Malvern Priory</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>It’s interesting to see how the argument is shifting. I’ve still
seen no justification given as to why on earth EH want to keep the old frame in
the first place. It is even stated by David Bryant in a posting yesterday that
EH themselves own a church with a tower containing one of these very frames. It
is exactly this sort of thing that brings EH into disrepute, seemingly wanting
to interfere with restoration projects at every turn on the most tenuous excuse.<o></o></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>Andrew Bull<o></o></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Darvill<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 March 2009 18:13<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1><st1><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bell</st1></st1></st1:place></st1:City>
Historians] Great Malvern Priory</span></font><o></o><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 17:51
12/03/2009, Bickerton, Roderic (SELEX GALILEO, <st1><st1><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1></st1></st1:place></st1:country-region>)
wrote:<br>
>Has the movement been measured recently?<br>
>Getting it down is no guarantee it will stay down.<br>
<br>
and<br>
<br>
At 17:40 12/03/2009, John H Allen wrote:<br>
>[ref <st1><st1:place w:st="on">Lichfield</st1></st1:place>] matters are
getting worse.<br>
<br>
The problem is no-one on the "ringers' side" appears to have put <br>
these points across to the Chancellor. EH found contractors prepared <br>
to guarantee that their work would reduce the frame movement enough <br>
to make the bells easy to ring and no-one asked "how long for". On <br>
the basis of the information provided I think I'd have found it <br>
difficult to justify replacing the frame. If the ringers had obtained <br>
a statement from the <st1><st1:place w:st="on">Lichfield</st1></st1:place>
ringers this would have helped, but it <br>
appears they didn't.<br>
<br>
As I see it, the ringers want the bells to be easier to ring and EH <br>
want to retain what they consider to be a historical frame. EH have <br>
proposed a solution that (they state) will give both sides what they <br>
want. The ringers/PCC haven't done this. How else do we expect the <br>
independent person charged with making a decision one way or the <br>
other to respond other than to go with EH?<br>
<br>
Chris<o></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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