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color=#000000>I cannot imagine the A's would flex as much as some of the modern
"fabricated</FONT> </FONT><FONT color=#000000>from channel" frame sides do, and
that seems to have no effect I can detect. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=293321418-12032009>Could it be that some
minor flexing of steel or iron dose not lose any energy and so long as
its confined to the structure of one bell, that is, has no effect on any other
bell, there is no problem, other than needing to expensively over specify the
supporting structure.</SPAN></DIV>
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they are the same as other I have seen, the A castings are not particularly
rigid laterally as they have no ribbing so even when fixed on a rigid grillage,
I’m not convinced that they stand well enough to allow the bells to ring really
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here in Leicestershire we had the similar frame at Ashby
de la Zouch. The bells were becoming very difficult to ring because of the
movement of the base timbers. A faculty was granted for the rehanging of the
bells which involved a redesigned frame on steel beams properly fixed to the
tower using the A frames for most of the bells except the tenor which was
mounted on new H castings. Others no doubt will comment on how well they
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Could
it be that the whole thing has been miss handled?<BR>There is no doubt that cast
A frames on a very heavy steel grillage<BR>could meet the highest standards of
technical excellence, and ultimately<BR>be more flexible with regard to future
augmentations, than a low side<BR>frame.<BR><BR>A frame design conserving the A
frames, casting and adding new ones<BR>could meet everyone's needs, and be
aesthetically pleasing, but would be<BR>unaffordable, in comparison to a modern
low side replacement.<BR><BR>Surly the presented alternatives should have had
equal technical merit,<BR>and useful life, so that the real difference in cost
was shown.<BR><BR>That would have put those wanting to retain as much of the old
frame as<BR>possible (just the A castings) in the position of justifying
the<BR>additional spend, and in the case of EH, take on board the
additional<BR>funding.<BR><BR><BR><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV><O></O>
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