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color:#1F497D'>The problem with the Churchcare database is that it is compiled
from the ‘Lists of Bells….’. These originate with HBWalters in the 1930’s 
& were updated in the 1970’s & 80’s by Ran Clouston. At that time there
was no NBR from which to make comparisons. Now there is, and perhaps, as Pete
says it is time to find out what is rare & what is not, on a national
basis, not a diocesan level. That does not mean, however, that all bells by Bowen
should be included, he seems to have been a very minor founder & somewhat
clueless. Representative examples, yes, but no more. Incidentally are we sure
that all these bells are actually by him, & not by other more major
founders casting for him?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Peter Dyson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2009 22:55<br>
<b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bell Historians] Re: Founder: Bowen of London<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks very much for the
  replies on this topic, especially Chris. Doing a little bit of analysis
  shows:<br>
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  9 known bells remaining in England<br>
  4 known bells remaining in Wales<br>
  1 known bell remaining in Scotland.<br>
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  Yet a search on the CofE Churchcare database of listed bells shows only 1 of
  these, as "very rare".<br>
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  As Historians, shouldn't we be recommending that the other 8 be added, or is
  this a problem that the database hasn't yet been reconciled at a national
  level?<br>
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  Pete Dyson<o:p></o:p></p>
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