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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";color:blue'>Is this
going to be another Malvern where an inadequate argument from the side that
actually wants to do something positive has lost the day?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2009 08:54<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City>
Historians] Hanley Stoke on <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Trent</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Was the fact that they are rotting away in their
present home and potentially at risk from severe vandalism put forward in the
proposal, not to mention they are unusable in their present state.<br>
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R<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Thu Oct 15 15:42 , 'John H Allen' <JOHN>sent:</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Richard,<O></O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><O> </O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#333333'>1)<span Roman></span></font><font size=1 color="#333333"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#333333'>    </span></span></font><font
color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:#333333'>The
set of 10 bells are important artefacts of the listed church and form an
integral part of its special character. The applicant has supplied no
over-riding reason, special merit or significant justification why the bells
should be removed from their setting and present location at this time. Removal
of the bells would be contrary to policy NC18 of the Staffordshire and Stoke on
Trent Structure Plan 1996 - 2011 and to advice in PPG15 Planning and the
Historic Environment.<O></O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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size=3 color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#333333'>This is the link to the Stoke City Council web site.<O></O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><a
href="http://www.planning.stoke.gov.uk/dataonlineplanning/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=55693"
target="_blank">http://www.planning<wbr>.stoke.gov.<wbr>uk/dataonlinepla<wbr>nning/AcolNetCGI<wbr>.exe?ACTION=<wbr>UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.<wbr>PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=<wbr>55693</a><O></O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><O> </O></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <ST1><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<ST1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday 15 October 2009
01:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <ST1><st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<ST1><st1:City
w:st="on">Bell</ST1></st1:City> Historians] Hanley Stoke on <ST1><ST1><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Trent</ST1></ST1></st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On what
grounds was the refusal made?<br>
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R<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Thu Oct 15 6:17 , Robert Lewis <EDITOR>sent:<O></O></span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 22:38
14/10/2009, John wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Earlier today,
Stoke on Trent City Council refused Listed Building Consent to remove the 10 G
& J bells as the first step towards a transfer to Stone Staffs.<O></O><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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That is an unfortunate set-back.  What is the plan now?<br>
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RAL <O></O><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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