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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Higson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2009 08:58<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians]
Hanley Stoke on Trent</span></font></p>
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face="Baskerville Old Face"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old Face";
color:blue'>Is this going to be another Malvern where an inadequate argument
from the side that actually wants to do something positive has lost the day?<o></o></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1> [mailto:<st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2009 08:54<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [<st1>Bell</st1>
Historians] Hanley Stoke on <st1><st1>Trent</st1></st1></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Was the fact that they are rotting away in their
present home and potentially at risk from severe vandalism put forward in the
proposal, not to mention they are unusable in their present state.<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Thu Oct 15 15:42 , 'John H Allen' <JOHN>sent:<o></o></span></b></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:#333333'>The set of 10
bells are important artefacts of the listed church and form an integral part of
its special character. The applicant has supplied no over-riding reason,
special merit or significant justification why the bells should be removed from
their setting and present location at this time. Removal of the bells would be
contrary to policy NC18 of the Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent Structure Plan
1996 - 2011 and to advice in PPG15 Planning and the Historic Environment.<O></O></span></font><o></o></p>
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is the link to the Stoke City Council web site.<O></O></span></font><o></o></p>
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href="http://www.planning.stoke.gov.uk/dataonlineplanning/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=55693"
target="_blank">http://www.planning<wbr>.stoke.gov.<wbr>uk/dataonlinepla<wbr>nning/AcolNetCGI<wbr>.exe?ACTION=<wbr>UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.<wbr>PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=<wbr>55693</a><O></O></span></font><o></o></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<ST1><st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1> [mailto:<ST1><st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Offen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday 15 October 2009
01:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <ST1><st1>bellhistorians@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</ST1></st1><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<ST1><st1>Bell</ST1></st1>
Historians] Hanley Stoke on <ST1><ST1><st1><st1>Trent</ST1></ST1></st1></st1></span></font><o></o></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>On what grounds was the refusal made?<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Thu Oct 15 6:17 , Robert Lewis <EDITOR>sent:<O></O></span></b><o></o></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><O></O>Earlier today,
Stoke on Trent City Council refused Listed Building Consent to remove the 10 G
& J bells as the first step towards a transfer to Stone Staffs.<O></O><o></o></span></font></p>
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That is an unfortunate set-back. What is the plan now?<br>
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