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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Optima><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'>The following has just gone off to the
Telegraph:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Optima;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sir,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The English Heritage
document, ‘Conservation Principles Policies and Guidance for the
Sustainable Management of the Historic Environment’ states:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>“Our definition of
conservation includes the objective of sustaining heritage values. In managing
significant places, ‘to preserve’, even accepting its established
legal definition of ‘to do no harm’, is only one aspect of what is
needed to sustain heritage values.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Church bells were
designed to be rung, yes <i><span style='font-style:italic'>rung</span></i>,
not left mute like exhibits in a museum case.   The very act of
rendering bells silent by the insistence of the retention of worn out and
sometime dangerous fittings and bell frames is to totally disregard every other
aspect of the heritage value of church bells.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Philip Venning’s
comparison with a vintage car is a total red herring.   I cannot
think of many vintage car owners who use their vehicles for their weekly trip
to the supermarket.   It is not the blindest bit of good bell ringers
ringing the bells in a neighbouring village church to summon people to church
in their own village.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If bells aren’t
used they become forgotten and left to fester high up in a tower.  
Eventually the bell frame gives up the unequal battle of supporting the bells
it contains and collapses, causing considerable damage to both the tower fabric
and historically significant bells.   Then who has won?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yours etc.,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Richard Offen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Captain of the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City></st1:place> Ringers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Bell</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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 w:st="on"><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>Perth</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State
 w:st="on"><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>Western Australia</span></font></st1:State></st1:place><font
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Lewis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 22 October 2009
9:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bell Historians]
Daily Telegraph letter</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 14:24 22/10/2009, Richard Offen wrote:<br>
<br>
>I hope someone is going to reply to this incredibly crass piece of <br>
>correspondence. I know that one of the ringers in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Hobart</st1:place></st1:City> has <br>
>already sent an e-mail letter to the Telegraph.<br>
<br>
I hope so too - but I don't think it will be me. I doubt that they <br>
would publish two letters from the same individual within the space <br>
of a couple of weeks. The response needs to be short and pithy in my <br>
view (more chance of getting published that way as well).<br>
<br>
Maybe you are the man for this task Richard!<br>
<br>
RAL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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