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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John H
Allen<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 October 2009 10:13<BR><B>To:</B>
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians] Lobby
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The definition of
‘statutory consultees’ is set out in the Care of Churches Measure 1991. These
are EH and ‘any National Amenity Society’. National Amenity Societies are
defined in the Measure as:-<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt" lang=EN>national
amenity society” means any of the following, the Ancient Monuments Society, the
Council for British Archaeology, the Ge<ST1>org</ST1>ian Group, the Society for
the Protection of Ancient Buildings, the Victorian Society and such other body
as may from time to time be designated by the Dean of the Arches and Auditor as
a national amenity society for the purpose of this
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt" lang=EN>Note that it
is possible under this legislation for the Dean of the Arches to designate any
other body as a National Amenity Society, which could be the CCCBR. The Dean of
the Arches is Charles Ge<ST1>org</ST1>e, Chancellor of Southwark and Deputy
Chancellor of <ST1><ST1>Worcester</ST1></ST1>.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert Lewis<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday 23 October 2009
09:58<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bell Historians] Lobby Groups
WAS Daily Telegraph letter</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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<P><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At 09:26
23/10/2009, Andrew Cairns wrote:<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I guess we have to be realistic; this is
SPAB's position and they are going to argue it whether we think it is
reasonable or not. </SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>I think you are right about that Andrew. It would be
interesting to know just how many ringers ARE currently members of SPAB and how
many of those would actually agree with its official stance on bell frames. How
does SPAB deal with dissenters in its own ranks I wonder?<BR><BR>Leaving aside
the question of its present "fitness for purpose" for the moment, perhaps there
is a case for the CC seeking "statutory consultee" status alongside SPAB and the
Victorian Society, EH, etc. <BR><BR>RAL<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><!--End group email -->
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