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class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do not like the letter
because it is factually incorrect.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>there are a fair number of
examples of "preserved rings" around.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>Churches are inspected and
collapse is prevented.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>The sad site meeting the very
rare visitor is one of bells in there pits there mouths resting on timbers
taking the load off decayed framework and fittings, the whole supported on
underpinning beams, the original frame supports having long since
rotted where they enter the tower walls. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nothing destroyed, historically
complete, and utterly useless.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=577490109-26102009><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes the utter stupidity
of the situation is underlined when you find out that because of H&S the
only person ever allowed up to see the mess is the church architect, which does
beg the question as to who the preservation is for.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2><B>From:</B> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard
Offen<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 October 2009 15:15<BR><B>To:</B>
bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians] Daily
Telegraph letter<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Optima size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima">The following has
just gone off to the Telegraph:<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Optima"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sir,<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The English Heritage document,
‘Conservation Principles Policies and Guidance for the Sustainable Management of
the Historic Environment’ states:<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Our definition of conservation
includes the objective of sustaining heritage values. In managing significant
places, ‘to preserve’, even accepting its established legal definition of ‘to do
no harm’, is only one aspect of what is needed to sustain heritage
values.”<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Church bells were designed to be
rung, yes <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">rung</SPAN></I>, not left mute
like exhibits in a museum case. The very act of rendering bells
silent by the insistence of the retention of worn out and sometime dangerous
fittings and bell frames is to totally disregard every other aspect of the
heritage value of church bells.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Philip Venning’s comparison with a
vintage car is a total red herring. I cannot think of many vintage
car owners who use their vehicles for their weekly trip to the
supermarket. It is not the blindest bit of good bell ringers ringing
the bells in a neighbouring village church to summon people to church in their
own village.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If bells aren’t used they become
forgotten and left to fester high up in a tower. Eventually the bell
frame gives up the unequal battle of supporting the bells it contains and
collapses, causing considerable damage to both the tower fabric and historically
significant bells. Then who has won?<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yours etc.,<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard
Offen<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Captain of the
<ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1></ST1> Ringers<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The <ST1><ST1>Bell</ST1>
<ST1>Tower</ST1></ST1><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><ST1><ST1><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Perth</SPAN></FONT></ST1></ST1><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><ST1><ST1><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Western
Australia</SPAN></FONT></ST1></ST1><FONT face=Arial><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>
[mailto:<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert Lewis<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:58
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<ST1>bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Bell Historians] Daily
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At 14:24
22/10/2009, Richard Offen wrote:<BR><BR>>I hope someone is going to reply to
this incredibly crass piece of <BR>>correspondence. I know that one of the
ringers in <ST1><ST1>Hobart</ST1></ST1> has <BR>>already sent an e-mail
letter to the Telegraph.<BR><BR>I hope so too - but I don't think it will be me.
I doubt that they <BR>would publish two letters from the same individual within
the space <BR>of a couple of weeks. The response needs to be short and pithy in
my <BR>view (more chance of getting published that way as well).<BR><BR>Maybe
you are the man for this task Richard!<BR><BR>RAL<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><!--End group email -->
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