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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I have always found the bells of Norwich Cathedral
a joy. They sounded throughout tmy school days and I have never grown
tired of their uniqueness.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The CD by Terry Mann, 'Bells of Paradise' starts
with the Cathedral bells sounding the hour - and, although not aware of what was
coming, I could place them straight away. How many chimes can be instantly
recognised?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Paul Cubitt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Assistant DAC Bells Advisor, Norwich
Diocese</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 06, 2009 2:05
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bell Historians] Unusual
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Optima><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Optima; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Just goes to show
everyone’s tastes are different! I’ve always found the
<ST1><ST1>Norwich</ST1></ST1> ‘tune’ rather charming, but then that has only
ever been as an occasional visitor – these things tend to seem different if
you are resident! My fond memory of them is of a good number of
boating holidays on the Broads when visits to <ST1><ST1>Norwich</ST1></ST1>
with a service at the Cathedral were almost compulsory for the sheer joy they
brought.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Optima><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Optima; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Must admit I’ve
often wondered if the Merton chime came before
<ST1><ST1>Canterbury</ST1></ST1>.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:bellhistori<WBR>ans@yahoogroups.<WBR>com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>David Cawley<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 6 November 2009 6:48
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
bellhistorians@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bell Historians] Unusual
clock chimes</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In my email last night I omitted
to mention that Helmore's Gregorian chimes of Canterbury Cathedral are by
no means unique, as devotees of Inspector Morse will know. The quarter chimes
at <ST1><ST1>Merton</ST1> <ST1>College</ST1></ST1> - presumably on the back
five - are the same composition. This begs the question as to which came
first, <ST1>Canterbury</ST1> (as Richard says, 1897) or Merton; and if it
was Merton, did they originate with Helmore, or did he "borrow" the idea for
<ST1><ST1>Canterbury</ST1></ST1>?</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I would take issue with him on the
<ST1><ST1>Norwich</ST1></ST1> "chimes being sounded automatically"
- what a racket they make, being struck in the order 12342345 with
an "open handstroke" every alternate row, monotonous and repetitive in the
extreme, not least because of the undersized hammers. The bells used
to be sounded by human agency from a chime rack in the N triforium, the ropes
being attached to the old ringing clappers as they had been since c1800. The
sound was quite acceptable if if the method was doubtful.
The QUARTER CHIMES, composed by Precentor Medley for Dean Goulburn's new
clock, are however melodious, even and unusual. They are
sounded using full-sized and correctly proportioned hammers. It was to
these perhaps that Richard should have referred. For other
comments on the service chimes, aka 'Gilbert's Revenge' see the late Paul
Cattermole's Church Bells of Norwich with photos of the Cathedral bells by
me.</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">DLC (Norwich DAC Bells Adviser
1972-1977) </SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[Bell Historians] Unusual clock chimes<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
clock chime at Canterbury Cathedral, which is based on the 8th Gregorian
Chant and was composed in 1899 by the Cathedral's Precentor, Canon
F.J.O. Helmore (who was also a very fine ringers by all accounts) to
commemorate the 1,300th (if memory serves me correct) anniversary of St
Augustine landing in Kent. The whole chime is topped off by the
magnificent sound of Great Dunstan - probably the best sounding 18th
century bell in <ST1><ST1>Britain</ST1></ST1> (that statement should set a
debate going!).<BR><BR>Richard<BR><BR><BR><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Mon Nov 2 6:50 , 'Mark Regan'
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">IR17;m thinking
of doing a cd of big clock bells and unusual clock chimes in the
<ST1><ST1>UK</ST1></ST1>. Please can subscribers let me know of any clock
chimes which they think worth recording? </SPAN></FONT><O></O></P>
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