<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">The article mentions "Westminster chimes"; did these begin with the 1932 octave or were clock bells (and clock, of course) already in the 1893 tower?<br><br>Carl<br><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/15/10, George Dawson <i><george@H3uUyiPkECKeg3J3iv9j8AezUblVFdg_pc3Jszpu-HsmZx_ikdQ57JKH4wZdY0_wONsQpQPt_SIninGQq8aZLS4Y-V8h.yahoo.invalid></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: George Dawson <george@ltw2dVbI6yDrjXhHZIMPWVgHXEXdeLGiYAnjduMkJMG8ad2Pwhdf5faInkxGJP3n-bUz8lN_c2lV8coKy8M.yahoo.invalidoo.co.uk><br>Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Shanghai<br>To: bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 12:32 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1855353429">
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<div class="yiv1855353429WordSection1"><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No, see: <br></span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://shanghaiist.com/2008/03/06/trinity_the_big.php">http://shanghaiist.com/2008/03/06/trinity_the_big.php</a> <br></span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">G</span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div><div style="border-right: medium none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0cm
0cm;"><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";"> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Allton<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2010 18:24<br><b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bell Historians] Shanghai</span> </p></div></div><div id="yiv1855353429ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="yiv1855353429ygrp-msg"><div id="yiv1855353429ygrp-text"><div><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I found this reference in the RW 1932 p140:</span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">“The present trouble around Shanghai adds interest!
to the fact that Messrs. Mears and Stainbank are shipping to that much harassed city a chiming peal of eight bells, which are to be erected at Holy Trinity Cathedral.” <br></span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Did they get there, and are they still there?</span></p><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Richard</span></p></div></div><div><p class="yiv1855353429MsoNormal"><span style="color: white;"><br></span></p></div></div>
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