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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link="#1E66AE" vlink="#1E66AE"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just for the record the treble of the 1797 ring at HT was removed in March 1834 to the church of St Paul Manhattan, where it still resides (together with an 1886 Meneely bell). So at least 1 bell of the 1845 bells was a replacement, not a recast.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>G<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl S Zimmerman<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 June 2012 19:31<br><b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bell Historians] Old North<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>  <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Technically, the old bells were not actually "hung dead" until they were placed in their present frame above the new ring of 12.  Before that, they hung in their original ringing fittings, but were immobilized for chiming purposes.  It seems likely that the immobilization occurred at least as long ago as 1909, when the 10th bell was added; it might even have been as long ago as 1849, when the 9th bell was added.  See www.towerbells.org/data/NYNYTCTC.HTM for more details of this history.<br><br>Carl Scott Zimmerman<br>Saint Louis, Missouri, USA -<br>- 19th c. home of at least 35 bell founders or resellers<br>Tel. +1(314)821-8437<br>Webmaster for www.TowerBells.org<br>* Avocation: tower bells<br>* Recreation: handbells<br>* Mission: church bells<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 6/20/12, Laura Dickerson <i><lauradi@vjFAoK722YAA3gaKCogj21FpGrUr4xdqfZ6SXO-_h6p7Cgk_zfLPtajV_EVlQcocJH3UKsQ.yahoo.invalid></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Laura Dickerson <lauradi@vjFAoK722YAA3gaKCogj21FpGrUr4xdqfZ6SXO-_h6p7Cgk_zfLPtajV_EVlQcocJH3UKsQ.yahoo.invalid><br>Subject: [Bell Historians] Old North<br>To: bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br>Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 9:20 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>...{snip}...<br>They have been hung dead for a long time, but I don't know *how* long.<br>Laura Dickerson<o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>           
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