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<div></div><div>AAJB wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Both the Ringing World and Dove say that these publications are for 'Church Bell Ringers."</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div>Whilst both The Ringing World and Dove may be FOR church bell ringers, they both include what may be described as secular ringing and bells.</div><div><br></div><div>I can understand Dove not including mini-rings, particularly the portable ones but I am sure that many performances on these bells are published in The Ringing World.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't see why a static secular ring shouldn't be included in its county or diocesan area for analysis purposes although I admit that to be able to track tends with secular (whatever way it is defined) performances may be of interest.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally I suggest that you use the Dove descriptions of towers as your starting point and come back to this list with any questions about those towers where there is some debate.</div><div><br></div><div>The majority of my ringing is on church bells (because that is where the bells are) but I would also say that the majority of it is secular in that it is not associated with a service or religious event. E.g. I organise three monthly quarter peals but only one of these is (loosely) associated with a service. It will always be difficult to decide if ringing is for a secular or religious purpose if you just consider the location. Not only are many performances on church bells actually secular but a few years ago I rang at a (definitely) secular tower for a wedding at a nearby church so it can be misleading in both directions.</div><div><br></div><div>James White</div><div><div style="color: #fff; height: 0;"></div>
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