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<div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>This link may be of interest. I recall seeing the programme on TV. My recollection is that the peal boards were incorporated into the design of the house.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/315998/man-consumed-by-house-project/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/315998/man-consumed-by-house-project/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes'>-</span><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 03, 2017 8:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bell Historians] Digest Number 3576<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#393939'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJka3EyYzB2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNTEyMzMzMjE2"><span style='color:white;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-transparent-180x40.png" alt="Yahoo! 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style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>Digest #3576 <o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;mso-border-alt:solid #DDDDDD .75pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><a name=toc></a><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1a <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1a"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1b <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1b"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by philholtsdgr </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1c <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1c"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1d <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1d"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Hayden Charles" hjc53 </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1e <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1e"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Chris Pickford" bty234150 </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1f <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1f"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "David Cawley" </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1g <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#1g"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "David Simpson" stoneringers </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2a <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#2a"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2b <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#2b"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Dickon Love" dickonlove </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2c <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#2c"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Ted Steele" bell8dinger </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2d <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#2d"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Ted Steele" bell8dinger </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3a <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#3a"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Sam Austin" combineharvestersam </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3b <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#3b"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Richard Smith" ras522000 </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3c <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#3c"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Samuel Austin" combineharvestersam </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>4a <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="#4a"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Peal Board Database </span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>by "Richard Smith" ras522000 </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-top:20.25pt'><div><h1 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:13.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Messages <o:p></o:p></span></h1><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1a <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1a></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYnFtcDlsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1a'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1a'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1a'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 2:14 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt;mso-outline-level:1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>Here is a 1877 date touch rung in....1877 !<br><br>Bellboard / Dove don't record that placename .<br><br>There is a church there with a tower so have the bells been sold ?<br><br>Thanks,<br>David<br><br>On Sunday, 22 April 1877 in 69 <br>Tipton <br>1877 Grandsire Triples <br>1 C Shelly jnr <br>2 J Russell <br>3 W Mallin <br>4 T Horton <br>5 W Beeson <br>6 C Shelly snr <br>7 J Carter (C) <br>8 Jesse Hipkins <br>Birmingham Daily Post 28 Apr 1877 p5 col6<br><br>----- Forwarded Message -----<br>From: BellBoard <<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>To: BellBoard <<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>> <br>Cc: David C Willis <<a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com">dcwillispiano@yahoo.com</a>><br>Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2017, 9:29<br>Subject: New tower<br><br>A performance has been added to BellBoard at a historical tower:<br><br>Tipton<br><br><a href="https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944">https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944</a><br><br>--<br><br>BellBoard <a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/</a><br><br>The Ringing World Ltd <a href="mailto:bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk">bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTJyaWIxM2RnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20320"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NjUzdWM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjA-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (7) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1b <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1b></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20322;_ylc=X3oDMTJycDFramN1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1b'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1b'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1b'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 2:55 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:pippolucas23@aol.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>philholtsdgr </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt;mso-outline-level:1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>My records show Tipton, S Martin, Staffs, 8, 12-0-25.<br>Philip Lucas<br><br><br>In a message dated 03/12/2017 10:14:21 GMT Standard Time, <br><a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a> writes:<br><br>Here is a 1877 date touch rung in....1877 !<br><br>Bellboard / Dove don't record that placename .<br><br>There is a church there with a tower so have the bells been sold ?<br><br>Thanks,<br>David<br><br>On Sunday, 22 April 1877 in 69 <br>Tipton <br>1877 Grandsire Triples <br>1 C Shelly jnr <br>2 J Russell <br>3 W Mallin <br>4 T Horton <br>5 W Beeson <br>6 C Shelly snr <br>7 J Carter (C) <br>8 Jesse Hipkins <br>Birmingham Daily Post 28 Apr 1877 p5 col6<br><br>----- Forwarded Message -----<br>From: BellBoard <<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>To: BellBoard <<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>> <br>Cc: David C Willis <<a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com">dcwillispiano@yahoo.com</a>><br>Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2017, 9:29<br>Subject: New tower<br><br>A performance has been added to BellBoard at a historical tower:<br><br>Tipton<br><br><a href="https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944">https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944</a><br><br>--<br><br>BellBoard <a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/</a><br><br>The Ringing World Ltd <a href="mailto:bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk">bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:pippolucas23@aol.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a 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style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1c <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1c></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20323;_ylc=X3oDMTJycmJhcGY1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1c'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1c'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1c'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:01 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>That looks right by the photo of the tower but Dove has no link to it.<br>Or I have missed the obvious somewhere.<br><br>David<br><br>My records show Tipton, S Martin, Staffs, 8, 12-0-25.<br>Philip Lucas<br><br>In a message dated 03/12/2017 10:14:21 GMT Standard Time, <br><a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a> writes:<br><br>>Here is a 1877 date touch rung in....1877 !<br>><br>>Bellboard / Dove don't <br>record that placename .<br>><br>>There is a church there with a tower so have <br>the bells been sold ?<br>><br>>Thanks,<br>>David<br>><br>>On Sunday, 22 April 1877 <br>in 69 <br>>Tipton <br>>1877 Grandsire Triples <br>>1 C Shelly jnr <br>>2 J Russell <br>>3 W Mallin <br>>4 T Horton <br>>5 W Beeson <br>>6 C Shelly snr <br>>7 J Carter <br>(C) <br>>8 Jesse Hipkins <br>>Birmingham Daily Post 28 Apr 1877 p5 <br>col6<br>><br>>----- Forwarded Message -----<br>>From: BellBoard <br><<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>><br>>To: BellBoard <br><<a href="mailto:admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk">admin@bb.ringingworld.co.uk</a>> <br>>Cc: David C Willis <br><<a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com">dcwillispiano@yahoo.com</a>><br>>Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2017, <br>9:29<br>>Subject: New tower<br>><br>>A performance has been added to BellBoard at <br>a historical <br>tower:<br>><br>>Tipton<br>><br>><a href="https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944">https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200944</a><br>><br>>--<br>><br>>BellBoard <br><a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/</a><br>><br>>The Ringing World Ltd <br><a href="mailto:bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk">bellboard@ringingworld.co.uk</a><br>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a 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</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1d'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1d'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:25 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:hcharles@grandsire.co.uk?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Hayden Charles" hjc53 </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>David Willis <a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com">dcwillispiano@yahoo.com</a> [bellhistorians] wrote on <br>03/12/2017 11:01:<br>> That looks right by the photo of the tower but Dove has no link to it.<br>> Or I have missed the obvious somewhere.<br>> <br>> David<br><br>Assuming I have the correct place, then it appears the tower was lowered <br>to foundations and re-built and bells sold.<br><br>see this piece (a Word Document) - originally a 5-part article in RW <br>June-Sept 1983 about the one hundredth anniversary of the creation of <br>the then Society of Change Ringers for the Archdeaconry of Stafford.<br><br><<a href="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0ahUKEwjUkoqg2-3XAhVsIMAKHUxJBCUQFgg_MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lwascr.org.uk%2Findex.php%2Fdocuments%2Fcategory%2F7-history%3Fdownload%3D1%3Aour-history&usg=AOvVaw3LxzJ4jemu5c_91ExKJ1NA">https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0ahUKEwjUkoqg2-3XAhVsIMAKHUxJBCUQFgg_MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lwascr.org.uk%2Findex.php%2Fdocuments%2Fcategory%2F7-history%3Fdownload%3D1%3Aour-history&usg=AOvVaw3LxzJ4jemu5c_91ExKJ1NA</a>><br><br>Hayden Charles<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:hcharles@grandsire.co.uk?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20324;_ylc=X3oDMTJycTJpaWt2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20324"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bWNhZDExBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjA-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (7) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1e <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1e></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20325;_ylc=X3oDMTJyMXU2YTBxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI1BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1e'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1e'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1e'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:29 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Chris Pickford" bty234150 </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>The 159 peals rung at Tipton (1848-1944) are recorded on the Felstead database which is, of course, the starting point for any research on peal records. The entry is actually headed “Lost ring 1964: bells scrapped”. See <a href="https://cccbr.org.uk/felstead/place.php?place=tipton">https://cccbr.org.uk/felstead/place.php?place=tipton</a> <br><br>Known as “The Pepperpot” on account of the shape of the tower, Tipton was a popular peal tower. The bells were a Mears six of 1798 (tenor 7-3-26), remodelled and augmented to eight (tenor 12-0-25) in 1848. Five of the bells were scrapped in 1951, the rest some years later. I believe the tower still stands, incorporated in a rather unusual house.<br><br>As to Ted Steele’s query re Upper Clapton, the ASCY peal books certainly weren’t destroyed. If the peal was rung for the College Youths then there should be a record of it<br><br>Chris Pickford<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:c.j.pickford.t21@btinternet.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20325;_ylc=X3oDMTJyb2JocWV2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI1BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20325"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTM3dWUzNTVhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI1BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjA-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (7) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1f <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1f></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20332;_ylc=X3oDMTJyaG4wN2IwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1f'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1f'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1f'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:33 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:davidl.cawley@btinternet.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"David Cawley" </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>I remember going to St Martin’s Church, Tipton about 20 years ago. At that time it was very securely locked and the windows boarded over, but had not yet been converted into a residence. The reason for the disposal of the Bells was the demolition of the “pepper-pot” tower c1950, so the last peal must have been close to the time when the Bells were taken down. As Chris says, five of them were scrapped, but I have a feeling that one was still standing at the back of the church when I visited. There was also a glass peal board – one of the black ones with gilt lettering at the back of the church. This was observed through the one window at the east end where some of the boarding had come away.<br><br>The lower part of the tower (ground floor and part of the ringing chamber) were rebuilt, but I understand that the rebuilding was cosmetic only, and never designed to hold a ring of Bells.<br><br>There was an article with a photograph of the former tower in a 1960’s RW with a rather amusing account of ringing conditions there, the tower being adjacent to the local gasworks.<br><br>DLC<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a> [<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a>] <br>Sent: 03 December 2017 11:30<br>To: <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a><br>Subject: RE: [Bell Historians] Tipton<br><br>The 159 peals rung at Tipton (1848-1944) are recorded on the Felstead database which is, of course, the starting point for any research on peal records. The entry is actually headed “Lost ring 1964: bells scrapped”. See <a href="https://cccbr.org.uk/felstead/place.php?place=tipton">https://cccbr.org.uk/felstead/place.php?place=tipton</a> <br><br>Known as “The Pepperpot” on account of the shape of the tower, Tipton was a popular peal tower. The bells were a Mears six of 1798 (tenor 7-3-26), remodelled and augmented to eight (tenor 12-0-25) in 1848. Five of the bells were scrapped in 1951, the rest some years later. I believe the tower still stands, incorporated in a rather unusual house.<br><br>As to Ted Steele’s query re Upper Clapton, the ASCY peal books certainly weren’t destroyed. If the peal was rung for the College Youths then there should be a record of it<br><br>Chris Pickford<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:davidl.cawley@btinternet.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20332;_ylc=X3oDMTJyc29zbW11BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20332"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTM3ajBodm9qBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjA-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (7) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: none'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>1g <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=1g></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20334;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY2c5cHEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzM0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:1g'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Tipton </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:1g'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:1g'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 12:33 pm (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:d.simpson11@ntlworld.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"David Simpson" stoneringers </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>Full details of all the 159 peals rung at Tipton can also be found on<br><a href="http://www.staffordshire-peals.co.uk/">http://www.staffordshire-peals.co.uk/</a><br><br>David Simpson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:d.simpson11@ntlworld.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Tipton"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20334;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZW1iaWJmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzM0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20334"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20320;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MW5hMmY2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzM0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjA-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (7) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2a <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=2a></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20321;_ylc=X3oDMTJydGlrMzdiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIxBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:2a'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:2a'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:2a'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 2:30 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"David Willis" dcwillispiano </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt;mso-outline-level:1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>I have found to my cost that it can take multiple word searches to find an answer.<br>A Newspaper search using FindMyPast scored zero.<br><br>Searching Bell News and pre 1950's RW's can be very hit and miss.<br><br>After Terry Hampton died I went searching Pre PealBase for 44 peals to balance his records and identical word searches were coming up with different answers. The 44 were eventually found but it took time.<br><br>David<br><br>________________________________<br>From: "Ted Steele <a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net">teds.bells@tesco.net</a> [bellhistorians]" <<a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com">bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017, 23:17<br><br>The correspondence about Botley and the interesting information that <br>came from it encourages me to enquire whether anyone on this list can <br>discover details of the ASCY band that rang a peal of G7 at St. Matthew, <br>Upper Clapton, Middx. on 6th October 1873; (Felstead).<br><br>I have been unable to trace it in any of the records to which I have <br>access and enquiries I made some years back with ASCY suggested that the <br>records for the relevant date had been lost in the war. I am beginning <br>to work on revising a history of ringing at the church and this is now <br>the only outstanding peal record. I suppose it is not impossible that <br>the Felstead record is incorrect as all the other peals from that era <br>appeared in Bell News or Church Bells and some in Bell's Life in London, <br>so it is odd that this one doesn't show up somewhere.<br><br>Any help or suggestions for further search options would be appreciated. <br>I have tried all the obvious sources on the Newspaper Archive.<br><br>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:dcwillispiano@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20321;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY2Y3MzQ5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIxBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20321"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20319;_ylc=X3oDMTM3cDFianRvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzIxBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMTk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (5) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2b <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=2b></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20326;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZDc2MHNnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI2BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:2b'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:2b'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:2b'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:36 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:dickon@lovesguide.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Dickon Love" dickonlove </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>Ted Steele:<br><br>"The correspondence about Botley and the interesting information that came from it encourages me to enquire whether anyone on this list can discover details of the ASCY band that rang a peal of G7 at St. Matthew, Upper Clapton, Middx. on 6th October 1873; (Felstead).<br><br>I have been unable to trace it in any of the records to which I have access and enquiries I made some years back with ASCY suggested that the records for the relevant date had been lost in the war."<br><br>The peal books were not destroyed, and I even recall seeing this peal - I think - when I was looking through the peal books a few weeks ago to find the first peal in Ireland, which was rung by the ASCY at Waterford Cathedral at around this time. Next time I am there, I will look this out.<br><br>DrL<br>(ASCY Librarian) <br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.<br><a href="http://www.avg.com">http://www.avg.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:dickon@lovesguide.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20326;_ylc=X3oDMTJydHIwdXBtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI2BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20326"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20319;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MTEyazVhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI2BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMTk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (5) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2c <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=2c></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20327;_ylc=X3oDMTJyazFqZG9tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI3BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:2c'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:2c'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:2c'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 4:26 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Ted Steele" bell8dinger </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>On 03/12/2017 11:36, 'Dickon Love' <a href="mailto:dickon@lovesguide.com">dickon@lovesguide.com</a> <br>[bellhistorians] wrote:<br>> Ted Steele:<br>> <br>> ...enquire whether anyone on this list can <br>> discover details of the ASCY band that rang a peal of G7 at St. Matthew, <br>> Upper Clapton, Middx. on 6th October 1873; (Felstead).<br>> <br>> enquiries I made some years back with ASCY suggested that the <br>> records for the relevant date had been lost in the war."<br>> <br><br>> The peal books were not destroyed, and I even recall seeing this peal - <br>> I think - when I was looking through the peal books a few weeks ago to <br>> find the first peal in Ireland, which was rung by the ASCY at Waterford <br>> Cathedral at around this time. Next time I am there, I will look this out.<br>> <br><br>Thank you Dickon, I am very much obliged. Also to others who assure me <br>that the records are not lost. I cannot trace the email (possibly on an <br>old computer somewhere) but my memory is that Chris Ridley, who was <br>librarian at the time, sent me a scan of the entry for an 1887 peal but <br>said that some of the earlier records were lost in the war. IIRC the <br>inference was that particular entries had become illegible due to damage <br>rather than that the actual books themselves were totally lost.<br><br>I shall be most grateful for anything that is available.<br><br>I did come across the Waterford peal during my searches of the <br>newspapers; it took my eye especially since my maternal ancestors came <br>from there.<br><br>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20327;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZWMyNG92BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI3BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20327"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20319;_ylc=X3oDMTM3cmExOGE0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI3BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMTk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (5) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>2d <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=2d></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20328;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYWcwZm1rBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:2d'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Upper Clacton missing peal </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:2d'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:2d'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 4:38 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Ted Steele" bell8dinger </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>On 03/12/2017 12:26, Ted Steele <a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net">teds.bells@tesco.net</a> [bellhistorians] wrote:<br><br>> IIRC theinference was that particular entries (ASCY Peal Book) had become illegible due to damage<br>> rather than that the actual books themselves were totally lost.<br>> <br><br>The actual message from Chris Ridley, dated 9th Sept. 2009 was:<br><br>"Unfortunately, the CY records from this period were mainly lost in the <br>Blitz in 1940 so there is little background information readily to hand.<br>I attach a photo of one peal entry from the CY peal book. Can provide a <br>photos of the earliest peals if required,"<br><br>So perhaps the one I am interested in is not actually among those that <br>are lost after all.<br><br>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:teds.bells@tesco.net?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Upper%20Clacton%20missing%20peal"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20328;_ylc=X3oDMTJybDMxb2ZzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20328"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20319;_ylc=X3oDMTM3Ym9lZXMzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMTk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (5) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3a <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=3a></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20329;_ylc=X3oDMTJyOWdmMnZpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI5BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:3a'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:3a'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:3a'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 7:37 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:sam0austin@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Sam Austin" combineharvestersam </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>When submitting historic peals, please be mindful of tenor weights and<br>places where rings have been replaced.<br><br>For instance, this is listed as having the tenor weight as the same the<br>1952 recast, 41-3-15 in C.<br><a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200149">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200149</a><br><br>whereas at the time, it was 41-0-14 in Bb<br><br>Just something else to consider and not intended as a criticism of<br>submitting these historic peals to work towards a complete and accurate<br>record.<br><br>Best wishes<br><br>Sam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:sam0austin@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20329;_ylc=X3oDMTJydXVoYTY1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI5BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20329"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20329;_ylc=X3oDMTM3ZnY5YjgzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzI5BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (3) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3b <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=3b></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20330;_ylc=X3oDMTJybTdzZHJ1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:3b'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:3b'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:3b'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:21 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:richard@ex-parrot.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Richard Smith" ras522000 </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>Sam Austin <a href="mailto:sam0austin@gmail.com">sam0austin@gmail.com</a> [bellhistorians] wrote:<br><br>> When submitting historic peals, please be mindful of tenor weights and<br>> places where rings have been replaced.<br>><br>> For instance, this is listed as having the tenor weight as the same the<br>> 1952 recast, 41-3-15 in C.<br>><br>> <a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200149">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1200149</a><br>><br>> whereas at the time, it was 41-0-14 in Bb<br><br>Thanks for the timely reminder, Sam.<br><br>As there's currently no comprehensive database of lost <br>rings, the best BellBoard can do when you submit a <br>historical performance -- I'll leave others to decide which <br>performances are historic and which merely historical -- is <br>to supply the details of the current ring. In some cases <br>this will be correct; in other cases, as here, it will need <br>changing manually.<br><br>Earlier this afternoon I imported Dave Kelly's spreadsheet <br>of 466 lost rings into BellBoard, which means the details of <br>towers like Tipton, Upper Clacton and West Bromwich will now <br>auto-complete too. Anyone entering a performance at a lost <br>tower should make sure they enter the date before the place <br>name, as auto-completion only lists lost towers where the <br>bells were removed after the date of the performance: so you <br>can enter a peal at Tipton in 1930 but not in 1970 as <br>BellBoard now knows they were removed in 1951.<br><br>Also perhaps of interest to those entering old performances <br>on BellBoard, BellBoard now has an open access policy to <br>editing old performances. The details of this may change as <br>we see how it pans out, but at present any person logged <br>into BellBoard can edit any performance rung before 2004. <br>This means if there are errors, such as with the weight of <br>the old ring at Pier Head, anyone can now correct them, and <br>I would encourage you to do so if you're confident about the <br>facts. You will also see a link to a version history page <br>in the footer of the performance so you can see what changes <br>have been made.<br><br>One final feature that might be of interest is that it is <br>now possible to add annotations to performances rung before <br>1900. The option to do this can be found on the edit menu <br>(found by clickon on the pencil icon). The purpose of this <br>feature is to allow the performance to be put in context, <br>and for any uncertainty over the details to be recorded. <br>Generally speaking, I'd rather annotations were used in <br>preference to footnotes for details that were not included <br>in the contemporary records. You'll see examples of them on <br>some of very earliest performances on BellBoard.<br><br>It's possible for multiple people to annotate performances, <br>and if there are different opinions, for example on the <br>likelihood that the composition was true, do please annotate <br>the performance to add the competing point of view, but I <br>don't want it to turn into a general discussion mechanism.<br><br>RAS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:richard@ex-parrot.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20330;_ylc=X3oDMTJybTZyMDdtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20330"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20329;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MHVsOGJyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (3) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>3c <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=3c></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20333;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZmhiaTZhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:3c'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Submitting historic peals (was The Botley Youths) </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:3c'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:3c'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:34 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:sam0austin@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Samuel Austin" combineharvestersam </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>Richard,<br><br>Excellent response and as usual, thank you for providing and updating this excellent resource. <br><br>I have tried out those facilities with success at: <br><br><a href="http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1201148">http://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/view.php?id=1201148</a><br><br>Best wishes<br><br>Sam <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3'><a href="mailto:sam0austin@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to sender </span></a>. <a href="mailto:bellhistorians@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Submitting%20historic%20peals%20%28was%20The%20Botley%20Youths%29"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply to group </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/messages/20333;_ylc=X3oDMTJycHJjYWt1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-?act=reply&messageNum=20333"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Reply via Web Post </span></a>. <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20329;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MHVyYmtxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTYEdHBjSWQDMjAzMjk-"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>All Messages (3) </span></a>. <a href="#toc"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Top ^ </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:30.0pt;float:left'><div><h2 align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>4a <o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:7.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><a name=4a></a><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bellhistorians/conversations/topics/20331;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZXM4NjJiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUwMjkzODgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjg1ODIwBG1zZ0lkAzIwMzMxBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzE1MTIzMzMyMTY-"><span style='mso-bookmark:4a'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>Re: Peal Board Database </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:4a'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:4a'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></h2></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;float:left'><h4 style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Sun Dec 3, 2017 10:31 am (PST) . Posted by: <o:p></o:p></span></h4><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:.75pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;float:left'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#3353F3;font-weight:normal'><a href="mailto:richard@ex-parrot.com?subject=Re%3A%20Peal%20Board%20Database"><span style='color:#3353F3;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>"Richard Smith" ras522000 </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:16.5pt;margin-bottom:4.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:14.25pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#333333'>John Harrison <a href="mailto:john@jaharrison.me.uk">john@jaharrison.me.uk</a> [bellhistorians] wrote:<br><br>> We suggested that as a first move it would be good to encourage people to<br>> start recording peal boards locally (I know a lot already have records, but<br>> I am sure many don't). That would be beneficial in its own right, as well<br>> as providing source material that can be used to populate a database in due<br>> course.<br><br>Whilst I wholeheartedly support any move to encourage people <br>to record peal boards (as well as boards recording other <br>performances, which often get ignored at the moment), I <br>don't think it's desirable to start a new database of them. <br>Such a database will inevitably become yet another peal (or <br>performance) database, and I would suggest a further <br>proliferation of them is not in the interest of the <br>Exercise.<br><br>I would encourage anyone recording details of peal boards to <br>enter the performance on BellBoard (if it is not already <br>there) and then attach a picture of the peal board. The <br>open access policy I mentioned a few minutes ago means that <br>anyone with a BellBoard account can now attach a photo to <br>any performance from before 2004. 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